The OFFICIAL "Lost" Thread

[Alberta Yote]

Where the hell am I?

No really, where the hell am I?

[Transplanted Caper]

Or is it WHEN are you?

[Alberta Yote]

Excellent point.

[discostu]

I just punched my co-worker in the face to give him a nosebleed in anticipation of the new episode tonight.

[Fido22]

I lost a hard cased black briefcase last week. Kindly let me know if you find it.

[Transplanted Caper]

I just punched my co-worker in the face to give him a nosebleed in anticipation of the new episode tonight.

I proposed to a girl, had her agree, and then proceeded to become a hopeless alcoholic who downs painkillers by the handful

[Transplanted Caper]

Island stuff>>Oceanic 6 stuff.


Jin ftw

[Douggy]

Good episode tonight.

My wife nailed the Rouseau prediction.

[Transplanted Caper]

Good episode tonight.

My wife nailed the Rouseau prediction.

Yeah, I knew that Rousseau was supposed to have a backstory type storyline this season, so as soon as I heard Locke say "does anyone speak french" that they were going to go in that direction.

The island stuff is getting more interesting. Doesn't look like the issues with the "sickness" from the time travel are an issue of potentially being born on the Island as Juliet got the nosebleed at the end of the episode.

While the Oceanic 6 stuff isn't as interesting, they're doing a good job moving forward quickly with that storyline (at least I hope they are), will be interesting too see how much of the Locke flashbacks we see with him meeting with the O6.

It's great that Jin's alive. I like his character. Even if accidentally he provides some humour to the show. They also did a good job fleshing out his character over the first few seasons.

[discostu]

Yeah, I knew that Rousseau was supposed to have a backstory type storyline this season, so as soon as I heard Locke say "does anyone speak french" that they were going to go in that direction.

The island stuff is getting more interesting. Doesn't look like the issues with the "sickness" from the time travel are an issue of potentially being born on the Island as Juliet got the nosebleed at the end of the episode.

While the Oceanic 6 stuff isn't as interesting, they're doing a good job moving forward quickly with that storyline (at least I hope they are), will be interesting too see how much of the Locke flashbacks we see with him meeting with the O6.

It's great that Jin's alive. I like his character. Even if accidentally he provides some humour to the show. They also did a good job fleshing out his character over the first few seasons.

I'm glad Jin is alive as well. For a character that's gone through so much, getting offed like that on the boat would have been a horrible end for him. Charlie got to go down in major glory. The island even officially said goodbye to Michael of all people. Jin deserves a better final story arc.

I like the island story this season a lot, but, I think they're doing a good job with the off-island stuff. Having Ben in the mix makes it interesting, plus, you're guaranteed Sayeed is going to kill at least one assassin in every episode that he's in.

[Transplanted Caper]

Another great episode last night. They're doing a great job cramming a lot into each.

*The Jin/Sawyer re-union was great
*Charlotte dying was odd, definitely thought there was a lot more to flesh out there - then again who knows if she's actually dead - this is Lost after all
*Interesting that she thinks Daniel was her reason for leaving the Island - makes Farraday even more interesting. In the Premiere I had assumed that Daniel was just infiltrating Dharma when he was wearing the hardhat - but I guess not (as it would seem odd Daniel would bother telling Charlotte to leave the Island in a future time travel episode if he knew already she would come back and die
*The Jin/French team stuff was probably more funny than it should have been
*Obviously the smoke monster and Others infiltrated the French camp, but I think Rousseau may be more batshit crazy than the show has let on up to this point
*Surprised Sun is the first on board to go back - makes sense how it played out with the Jin reveal - but I had figured she'd be the most resistant to returning
*Where's Hurley?
*Nice confirmation on Eloiese being Farrady's mother - surprised there wasn't a Desmond/Eloiese moment at the end - she didn't seemed to acknowledge him
*Was the man who Sayid killed hired by Ben to scare Kate? Or was it someone else after her and Aaron
*I think Kate will wind up being the last to come around - with Hurley likely to be the next onboard
*The Locke/Christian scene was great - although one wonders if Sawyer et al are now stuck in the time period Locke re-set the dial at (or if they immediately jump ahead to the current day - which would help for s/l purposes probably!)
*It's interesting overall with the 06. Why would they go back? It really is an interesting question - Sawyer is for all intents and purposes the only attachment any of them remotely have (well Jin for Sun but the other O6 don't know Jin is alive as they didn't see the "proof" - proof that was pretty weak frankly, even though the audience knows Jin is alive) would they risk their lives again and go back to the Island for one person?

[discostu]

*It's interesting overall with the 06. Why would they go back? It really is an interesting question - Sawyer is for all intents and purposes the only attachment any of them remotely have (well Jin for Sun but the other O6 don't know Jin is alive as they didn't see the "proof" - proof that was pretty weak frankly, even though the audience knows Jin is alive) would they risk their lives again and go back to the Island for one person?

This is how I see the motivations working for each character going back:

Jack - His life is miserable, and, he feels that he is supposed to go back, as, there's nothing in the real world for him. He also takes responsibility for everyone he left behind, which includes his Claire, who is his sister.

Kate - Sawyer is enough of a reason. If she has reason to believe that he's alive (and Locke probably said that he is), but, it's balanced against the safety of Aaron, particularly with visions of Claire telling her to not come back.

Hurley - His life is miserable, and, he's talking with dead people. He hates lying, and, if it wasn't Ben, who Sayid warned him about, he would have probably already agreed to go.

Sun - Will go back for Jin, but, the question is if their daughter will go back or not.

Sayid - He actually may be the toughest, but, again, he has nothing left off the island, and, he would go back if he knows that other people's lives are at stake if he doesn't.

Desmond - Would go back if he feels that he needs to for Faraday, who, saved his life, even if it means breaking a promise to Penny.

Walt - We haven't seen much of him off the island. He liked the island, and, trusted Locke. If Locke told him to go back, he's probably contemplated it. His grandmother may not let him. (note: I have no idea if he is one of the guys that is supposed to return).

[Sinclair]

I haven't seen the latest episode but I am totally going to fuck Penny. I look forward to seeing it even though I have spoiled it for myself by reading your posts. I was not that happy Jin was alive as I found Sun much sexier once she turned into a 5 star bitch.


I am a found cockfag

[PredsFan77]

the continental plane crashed at 11000 feet, but the lost people survived atleast a 30,000 ft plane crash?

[discostu]

the continental plane crashed at 11000 feet, but the lost people survived atleast a 30,000 ft plane crash?

The island is magical and shit.

These guys had the misfortune of crashing in Buffalo.

[Colonel Angus]

"He's the man who killed me"

I love this show:prickle:

[Redden Punches Faces]

I actually had to watch the 'recap' of last weeks episode since I missed it, and I must say the popup shit is quite distracting. I don't like it.

[Sinclair]

I thought last nights episode was the best one in a while. I knew that the oceanic 6 were coming back but it was a great twist to have them in 1977 and Sawyer being the guy calling the shots. The three years they were off the Island everyones life was fucked up and Sawyer mellowed and matured into a seemingly competent leader.
Also, Horace's wife looked incredibly fuckable lounging in that hammock.

I am a stay puff cockfag

[ArtSexDesign]

I used to watch this show, I caught it when it first aired and then mid-way through season 2 I just gave up on it and couldn't really stand the direction of the show.

A lot of people still love it and there are a lot of people that think the show is a waste of time to follow. I don't know if I should get back into "Lost" or just continue forgetting about it.

[Sawyer]

I'd get back into it if I were you V and while at it, watch Carnivale and than curse HBO for closing it after season 2

[ArtSexDesign]

I did watch Carnivale and Huff as well, hated that both shows ended (I think Huff was showtime though).

I might check it out, I need to re-download all the seasons though, with TvTorrents that would basically take 4hrs for each season with my download speeds of like 900+kb/s

[discostu]

I just watched a 12 year old get shot, and was happy about it.

I love this show.

[Transplanted Caper]

I just watched a 12 year old get shot, and was happy about it.

I love this show.

Fucking bananas. I have to wonder whether Ben is actually dead though. Maybe the real red herring of this season was Farraday's description of how the time travel worked, because from what I've seen it seems all the rules he stated have been broken.

[Sawyer]

How do you even do a next episode after something like that?
This is the best show on TV bar none.

[The MuffinMan]

The best part about Lost is all those "holy fuck, did that just happen?" moments that give you an aneurysm and orgasm at the same time.

[discostu]

New episode tonight. I'm sure we'll find out that little Ben didn't die, and find out what the ramifications are.

[Sinclair]

I just spoiled it for myself by reading this. I haven't seen last weeks episode but I have it downloaded on the computie and will watch tonight. I am thrilled to learn of ben getting shot. He is such a vile character, so despicable I get a boner when I think about hating him. I worry about his blood pressure though as his eyes are really bulgy. I want him to suffer but not be dead because then I couldn't hate him anymore.

I am a hypertensive cockfag

[Sawyer]

New episode tonight. I'm sure we'll find out that little Ben didn't die, and find out what the ramifications are.

This will be when Jacob first approaches Ben and starts the chain reaction to Ben killing Dharma

[discostu]

Big Ben episode tonight. He atones for all of his sins of his past as an adult, while, back in 1977, childhood Ben loses his innocence. There is no indication whether this is meant in a sexual way or not, but, Richard Alpert does appear to wear mascara, so, take from that what you wish.

[The MuffinMan]

Big Ben episode tonight. He atones for all of his sins of his past as an adult, while, back in 1977, childhood Ben loses his innocence. There is no indication whether this is meant in a sexual way or not, but, Richard Alpert does appear to wear mascara, so, take from that what you wish.

I have avoided watching any previews for tonights episode, and only have a small idea of what is going to happen based on the talk on the boards lost thread. I've been waiting for a Ben episode for quite sometime, so I expect great things to come out of this. I think it's a combination of Ben's storyline and Michael Emerson's acting, but anything centered around Ben is what makes Lost so great.

[Sawyer]

That was a hell of an episode. Good to see an episode based around Ben to give us some more insight to one of the most dangerous people on TV

[Sinclair]

The Ben/Locke storyline is my favourite because it has more to do with "the Island" and what it wants. What ever happened to that big invisible stomping monster? I am a little sad the smoke monster is somewhat unveiled but it was a great episode.



I am a mauna loa cockfag

[Sawyer]

I'm still wondering about the 4 toed statue

[Douggy]

Anyone still watching?

I'm loving the new, responsible Sawyer. Although I'm getting tired of the stupid love triangle. Probably my least favourite part of the show.

I love how they've resolved the "You can't change the past" thing (so far). Sayid tried to change the past by killing Ben but ultimately cemented Ben's hatred for Dharma.

You know what NEEDS to happen once the series is done? Someone edits the whole thing and puts it into chronicalogical order, starting with (so far) Whitmore, Alpert and the US army on the Island in the 50s, and Locke walks up to them once nice sunny day.

[Donair Mo Dizzle]

I havent seen this shwo yet, is it god? I see dvds for it in the wall market. Buit i havent seen it yet.

[Douggy]

I havent seen this shwo yet, is it god? I see dvds for it in the wall market. Buit i havent seen it yet.
It's good. If you're going to start watching DVDs you might as well wait for season 6 to come out so you can rent/buy/download the whole thing.

[Donair Mo Dizzle]

It's good. If you're going to start watching DVDs you might as well wait for season 6 to come out so you can rent/buy/download the whole thing.

is it the last season?

[Douggy]

is it the last season?
No we're in season 5 which is just winding down. Season 6 will be the last.

[Krazy Tea]

That durty bitch

[The MuffinMan]

That durty bitch

For serious.

THe epi last night was so hyped (based on the epi "the constant" last season), that I actually found myself disappointed. The good thing is that a disappointing LOST episode is still better than 98% of the rest of TV. The acting in Lost is miles ahead of everything else on the boob.

[oldgoalie]

For serious.

THe epi last night was so hyped (based on the epi "the constant" last season), that I actually found myself disappointed. The good thing is that a disappointing LOST episode is still better than 98% of the rest of TV. The acting in Lost is miles ahead of everything else on the boob.

I'm pissed. Daniel was fucking awesome. Here, there, back again; the man had more frequent flier miles than John Glenn.

Looks like all hell breaks loose next week...

[Douggy]

Just because he's dead that doesn't mean we won't see him on the show any more.

Anyways I'm tired of the stupid sawyer-kate-jack thing. Hopefully the season finale is good and doesn't leave me pulling my hair out for the summer.

[The MuffinMan]

Just because he's dead that doesn't mean we won't see him on the show any more.

Anyways I'm tired of the stupid sawyer-kate-jack thing. Hopefully the season finale is good and doesn't leave me pulling my hair out for the summer.

I'm guessing it's going to end with a cliffhanger that is going to drive us all nuts during the off season. I don't watch previews, but it's going to be fuckin bonkers.

[Krazy Tea]

Just because he's dead that doesn't mean we won't see him on the show any more.

Anyways I'm tired of the stupid sawyer-kate-jack thing. Hopefully the season finale is good and doesn't leave me pulling my hair out for the summer.

I was kind of hoping she would dive in the river after Jack, I would have like to see her soaking wet one more time :danson:

[The MuffinMan]

I was kind of hoping she would dive in the river after Jack, I would have like to see her soaking wet one more time :danson:

My friend doesn't think she is hot.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/hotlilly555.jpg


I think my friend is ghey.

[Douggy]

Her eyes are weird.

She'd obviously be hot in real life but in terms of famous people she doesn't do anything for me.

Juliette on the other hand...

http://tvblog.guidelive.com/AP%20ON%20TV%20LOST%20ELIZABETH%20MITCHELL.JPG

[Transplanted Caper]

Season Finale tonight. I'm expecting to get my mind blown.

[Douggy]

I don't know what I'm going to do if the game is close tonight... I don't have TiVo or anything.

[Transplanted Caper]

I don't know what I'm going to do if the game is close tonight... I don't have TiVo or anything.

Me either...

I would probably watch hockey, and catch Lost tomorrow on CTV.ca. Of course that would require me to run around screaming DONT TELL ME DON'T TELL ME at the office tomorrow, but I guess that's really par for the course.

[Douggy]

Lets just hope the game is out of hand one way or another by 9:00.

[Douggy]

After the opening sequence with Jacob and the other guy, the fact that Locke's dead body was in the crate was entirely predictable to me. Kind of disapointing that I figured out the big twist of the season finale.

But it was cool to me that at the end they reversed the colours on the LOST graphic. That tells me that everything has changed. I'm anxious to see what the next season is going to be about but as of now there is nothing really to base speculation.

What do you guys think about the overal themes of the show? Personally, I think there has to be some major tie-in with Christian theology. Something like Jacob being God the Father, Locke being Christ and the smoke monster being the Holy Spirit? Now that Locke has been 'defeated' he needs to be resurected for the good guys to win.

I don't know... this is entirely speculation. My wife agrees that there is a lot of Christian stuff but there are too many links to other religions for it to be only a Christian thing.

EDIT: And in the above theory, Ben is Judas. Got that last part from Lostpedia: http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Incident,_Parts_1_%26_2/Theories

[oldgoalie]

I'm not sure about the heavy emphasis on Christian, as the whole Egyptology part is still in your face...

I picked up the reverse color thing right away also. It sucks that we have to wait another 7 - 9 months to see how this all plays out.

Either way, Ben had a choice, and he made it. I think with the choice he's made, he's fucked. Judas Iscariot certainly applies.

[The MuffinMan]

I finally had time to watch the finale this weekend. It was damn hard to avoid all entertainment media for 5 days so nothing would get ruined for me. The Pens-Caps game was getting out of hand but I chose to watch it at a bar, ruining my chance of switching to Lost.

It's pretty easy to buy into the Christian, Egypt, etc references, and there are thousands of websites dedicated to it, but it would take a graduate thesis to put it all together. When you look at the references to religion, wouldn't it make more sense is Ben was Benjamin, son of Jacob? After that last episode I think it's safe to assume Jacob is Jacob and the guy in black is his twin brother Esau.

Perhaps over the next 9 months we can build an all-encompassing theory.

[discostu]

So, because I'm an Lost obsessed-cockfag, I've gone back and watched the first season episodes in order. After this season's finale, one episode that becomes far more interesting than it did in the first viewing is Deux Ex Machina, where Locke finds the beachcraft with Boone. The first time that episode aired, it was our first look into how Locke was so easily manipulated in his past by his father, while on the island, we were seeing the island communicate with him in some fashion, and that maybe he was special. Now, when you realize how much Locke was a pawn was by Jacob's nemesis, whoever he is, that episode seems so much more tragic.

That episode is also probably one of the best early season episodes for raising so many mysteries that have gotten fully resolved. We were shown the beachcraft, when a season later it was fully explained how it ended up there in Eko's flashback. We saw the light come on in the hatch, the first sign of any life in there, and had that fully explained in Desmond's first flashback. We have also gotten a good hint that Locke's dreams were all part of the island's manipulation of him.

I always thought that episode was a good episode, but, probably wouldn't have been considered one of my favourites or anything at the time, but, with the revelations about Locke that we have now, you realize just how well done that episode was.

[Transplanted Caper]

FWIW, I do hope that Titus Welliver is a cast member all next season.

[discostu]

FWIW, I do hope that Titus Welliver is a cast member all next season.

I expect his character to be pretty vital to this show, but, I get the sense that they may use him and Jacob sparingly in any scenes next season. If they are the puppet masters in this whole game, their effect is lessened with too much screen time.

[The MuffinMan]

So, because I'm an Lost obsessed-cockfag, I've gone back and watched the first season episodes in order. After this season's finale, one episode that becomes far more interesting than it did in the first viewing is Deux Ex Machina, where Locke finds the beachcraft with Boone. The first time that episode aired, it was our first look into how Locke was so easily manipulated in his past by his father, while on the island, we were seeing the island communicate with him in some fashion, and that maybe he was special. Now, when you realize how much Locke was a pawn was by Jacob's nemesis, whoever he is, that episode seems so much more tragic.

That episode is also probably one of the best early season episodes for raising so many mysteries that have gotten fully resolved. We were shown the beachcraft, when a season later it was fully explained how it ended up there in Eko's flashback. We saw the light come on in the hatch, the first sign of any life in there, and had that fully explained in Desmond's first flashback. We have also gotten a good hint that Locke's dreams were all part of the island's manipulation of him.

I always thought that episode was a good episode, but, probably wouldn't have been considered one of my favourites or anything at the time, but, with the revelations about Locke that we have now, you realize just how well done that episode was.

I'm looking forward to starting over and watching all the episodes again, since there is such a long wait for the next season. Given that Locke has been so tragically manipulated, it's going to be painful to watch his story from a different perspective. His blind faith and conviction that the Island was "beautiful" was always leading me to believe that he was destined for greatness. At the moment it appears like he was chosen and screwed over in the same fashion as what his father had done to him.

[discostu]

I'm looking forward to starting over and watching all the episodes again, since there is such a long wait for the next season. Given that Locke has been so tragically manipulated, it's going to be painful to watch his story from a different perspective. His blind faith and conviction that the Island was "beautiful" was always leading me to believe that he was destined for greatness. At the moment it appears like he was chosen and screwed over in the same fashion as what his father had done to him.

I've only watched the first season right now, but, it's actually amazing how the events in the finale change his entire story. I bought right into that he was special. Even when we saw that he created his own fate in a lot of ways as the leader of the Others with his conversation with Richard in the 50's, you always figured that if the island healed him, and gave him visions, that he must be special, and, that all of the flashbacks where he gets manipulated by his father is just a contrast to show how he is now in the place where he belongs. Instead, it was just another cycle repeating itself.

[The MuffinMan]

I've only watched the first season right now, but, it's actually amazing how the events in the finale change his entire story. I bought right into that he was special. Even when we saw that he created his own fate in a lot of ways as the leader of the Others with his conversation with Richard in the 50's, you always figured that if the island healed him, and gave him visions, that he must be special, and, that all of the flashbacks where he gets manipulated by his father is just a contrast to show how he is now in the place where he belongs. Instead, it was just another cycle repeating itself.

I don't know how, but I still expect some sort of redemption for Locke, assuming it's going to be a "happy ending" ending to the series. At the very least, his greatest contribution to saving everyone may end up being his impact on Jack's faith, if Jack's leadership is what eventually saves everyone.

[Vic Rattlehead]

Ugh, I need new episodes now. 2010 is too far away. :beat:

[discostu]

Bumping this up since we're less than 2 weeks away from the premiere.

[Transplanted Caper]

Will probably watch Season 5 over again in the next two weeks.

[discostu]

Will probably watch Season 5 over again in the next two weeks.

Over the summer I watched the whole series from the beginning. Locke's story on the island is fascinating in light of the events of season 5. To realize that all the signs that he was seeing that he was special was just the island manipulating him is pretty cool.

[The MuffinMan]

The only thing that worries me about this coming season is the aneurysm from having my mind blown.

[Transplanted Caper]

The only thing that worries me about this coming season is the aneurysm from having my mind blown.

Given the potential for alternate timelines for everyone I would say that's a given.

[The MuffinMan]

Honestly, the only thing that would disappoint me this season is if they fail to tie up all the story lines. There is alot to reveal, but I have faith that the writers have been planning this season for far too long to "forget" about some of the unknowns.

Also, I know his arc is almost complete, but I've always felt that the more we see Dezzy, the better the episode.

[Subbaw]

I never watched a single episode until this past summer. After the first few episodes i was stranded just like the survivors and couldn't get my self away from the show lol

[Haddock]

M1D-cuc8OTI

[The MuffinMan]

The most anticipated televison event since the OJ verdict happens tonight

[Subbaw]

:banana::banana::banana:

[Sawyer]

Aboot freakin time.
No breaks in between weeks right?

[Douggy]

Allow me to whet your appetite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKcKtjrL5bc

EDIT: No spoilers for everyone who has seen up to season 5.

[Transplanted Caper]

The most anticipated televison event since the OJ verdict happens tonight

And in each case the black guy did it.

[Transplanted Caper]

Crazy opening.

[Transplanted Caper]

I'll be interested to see what, if anything, they can do with Walt this season. I would imagine if logistics prevent them from doing anything with him that it would probably be the biggest open end the show had to leave hanging. It seemed like he was a key part to the show for the first two seasons, so to have his storyline dropped would probably be the biggest hole left in the series. They obviously faced the issue of a growing kid, and after that a less than amicable split with Perrineau, but it'll be interesting too see if any of the Losties interact with Walt post-815.

[Transplanted Caper]

Re-watching "Do No Harm". Great episode. Jack's a psycho, but fuck was Shannon ever a useless character.

[discostu]

Re-watching "Do No Harm". Great episode. Jack's a psycho, but fuck was Shannon ever a useless character.

That episode is one of my all time favourites. Trying to perform a blood transfusion with your own blood using a sea urchin as the needle, and then willing to ampute a guy using blunt instruments is pretty intense.

And yes, Shannon was absolutely useless. Boone's death at least fit into the the show's larger plotlines.

[Transplanted Caper]

Yeah, its an episode you remember, but then when you watch again it's still pretty insane. Jack was going moment to moment. I have no clue what he had planned to do with a one legged Boone on an Island.

[Supermassive]

Stu! Caper! Awesome. Too bad Walter is a mod over there...

[Canadian Bias]

Allow me to whet your appetite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKcKtjrL5bc

EDIT: No spoilers for everyone who has seen up to season 5.

Fuck, I love this show.

I'm re watching the entire series when I go to Halifax in March.

[Dr Love]

I thought last weeks episode was disappointing, and last nights was headed down that path. But the last 20 minutes or so were awesome.

[Sawyer]

Last episode tonight.
Anyone else excited?

[Tom]

no I'm at the point where I just want the fucker to end. It's sucked so bad. I'm embarrassed now to watch and tell people that I watch it.

I used to love it so much.

The last two episodes were just total shit.

[Sawyer]

They got to the point where they have to answer as many questions as possible. I guess they could have just said what happened.

[discostu]

Last episode tonight.
Anyone else excited?

Second last. The finale is on Sunday.

The last episode sucked a lot of the momentum after killing off three major characters the week before, but, I am curious to see how everything gets resolved between tonight and the finale.

I haven't been the biggest fan of this season, but, I always expected the questions raised to be greater than the answers on this show. Still, this season has had it's moments, and, I am curious as to how each of the characters story ends. I'm also hoping they give a valid reason for spending as much time with the alternate reality plotline they have this season. If they don't, I think that's what will leave a sour taste in my mouth.

[Tom]

They got to the point where they have to answer as many questions as possible. I guess they could have just said what happened.

Why do they have to answer questions? In other fantasy or horror or whatever they don't answer why everything is why it is.

The more you answer the stupider it gets. They never should have shown the smoke monster or tried to explain anything crazy.

[Sawyer]

Why do they have to answer questions? In other fantasy or horror or whatever they don't answer why everything is why it is.

The more you answer the stupider it gets. They never should have shown the smoke monster or tried to explain anything crazy.

Kinda the point when each episode gives you a WTF moment.
Go to any Lost forum and it's mainly about riddles, hypotheses, conspiracies, etc. The fans want answers to questions posed.
Remember the backlash that Soprano's got? Same deal here if they don't deliver the goods in the finale.
Name one horror/fantasy show or movie that left questions unanswered and never did a movie/sequel/remake/spin off.
If anything, I can see a Lost movie if most of everything isn't answered.

[Haddock]

69OXRew7v0I

[Tom]

Kinda the point when each episode gives you a WTF moment.
Go to any Lost forum and it's mainly about riddles, hypotheses, conspiracies, etc. The fans want answers to questions posed.
Remember the backlash that Soprano's got? Same deal here if they don't deliver the goods in the finale.
Name one horror/fantasy show or movie that left questions unanswered and never did a movie/sequel/remake/spin off.
If anything, I can see a Lost movie if most of everything isn't answered.

pan's labyrinth. explain everything, im crying, was she really dead, are those her parents, was the faun real? was the baby sprout thing real? How was it created? See it's retardation.

[Babych'D]

Interesting episode. Why the fuck couldn't Jacob have just had a fireside chat a few months/years ago and saved me the trouble of fiddling with the PVR. Sunday will likely just bring anger - not answers. :punchballs:

[Dr Love]

Still holding out hope that Frank Lapidus saves the day. You know it will happen.

And that Mikhail returns. He's the Lazarus Man.

[jester]

Interesting episode. Why the fuck couldn't Jacob have just had a fireside chat a few months/years ago and saved me the trouble of fiddling with the PVR. Sunday will likely just bring anger - not answers. :punchballs:

Well, they're on record that they're not going to answer every question... so there ya go. I watched the first couple of seasons, but got tired. Been watching this season and kind of happy I didn't bother sticking around for the middle.

[Tom]

http://io9.com/5540279/50-questions-lost-really-does-need-to-answer

there's no way they can answer all these questions.

my favs:

Was that the Smoke Monster telling Ben and Locke to move the island, back in season four? If so, why did Smokey want the island moved? What did moving the island accomplish exactly?

Why did the Smoke Monster kill Mr. Eko? Why did the Smoke Monster leave Rousseau alive after killing or "claiming" the rest of her expedition?

What was so special about Walt? No, really. They made a big deal out of it and everything.

Jacob was immortal, right? So what made him decide he needed to start doing such a huge head-hunting search for his replacement?

Why is Aaron so important? Why wasn't Kate supposed to raise him?

Why did Widmore order Keamy's gang to kill everyone on the island except for Ben? Especially since Widmore is so keen for Locke to lead the Oceanic Six back to the island a few years later. And why exactly is Widmore so keen for the Oceanic Six to come back to the island? Because they're Candidates? Or some other reason? If he is keen for there to be Candidates on the island, why did he order Keamy to kill them all?

what happened to Christian's body on the island?

Why are the Numbers so important? I get that each of the Numbers corresponds to one of the remaining Candidates as of a while ago. But that's just another instance of the Numbers popping up in relation to something. Why these numbers? Why were they powerful long before Jack, Hurley, et al. came to the island?

And come to think of it, what was the point of having someone broadcasting the numbers over the radio over and over again for years?

When Ben took Locke to Jacob's Cabin, there was a weird telekinetic storm and Locke heard a voice saying "Help me." Was that Jacob? Or the M.I.B.? What sort of help did the voice have in mind? More importantly, what's with the dog painting in Jacob's Cabin???

haha, just made up shit that has no answer.

[Cao]

Maybe Jacob intended to raise Aaron as a candidate like fake mother raised Jacob and Smokey.

[Cao]

Also my favourite, favourite part about last episode was "It's just a line of chalk in a cave. The job is yours if you want it." So goddamn obvious, ahaha.

[Dr Love]

Some of those questions are stupid.

"Why did the Smoke Monster kill Mr. Eko?"

Because he wanted off the show. It wasn't their plan to kill him off, but they had to.

"Why isn't Kate a candidate?"

They directly answered that one. Way to pay attention.

[jester]

Boo.

[buddahsmoka1]

That finale was fucking sick.

[Haddock]

Sick in the sense that it sucked? Having your characters ''already dead'' is one of the laziest form of writing you can possibly have. The whole flash-sideways, wich are more like flash-way-forward-in-the-future-where-everyone-is-dead was all for nothing. Just more emotional drivel. Give me another season of just Hugo and Ben running around the island.

[Sawyer]

Not what I expected. I hoped for more.
My guess, the alternate timeline is where they ended up, much like the ghosts on the island ended up. Die on the island and that's where you go and live your 'life' until you are ready to pass on, the ghost's/whispers in the jungle. Once they were realized why they were in this alt. reality, they had to help before passing on like Michael did. For the remaining group, they couldn't pass on until they found their loved ones, Sawyer & Juliet, Jack & Kate, Hurley & Libby, etc.
Ben needed to help the new island protector some more and to find Alex (maybe Russo too) to make sure everything is OK, before passing on.
Michael had already passed on when he helped Hurley. Walt never died on the island. Penny was there, dunno why, she was never on the island.

[Dr Love]

Sick in the sense that it sucked? Having your characters ''already dead'' is one of the laziest form of writing you can possibly have. The whole flash-sideways, wich are more like flash-way-forward-in-the-future-where-everyone-is-dead was all for nothing. Just more emotional drivel. Give me another season of just Hugo and Ben running around the island.

Agreed. It was predictable though, that they would leave everyone empty handed. I did like that Frank returned though.

[jester]

Yep, for all the fuss they made about what was going on from the outset... it was pretty much the first thing people thought it was.

Oh well.

That being said, perhaps someone has a concrete answer for this... was the island "real" or was it just part of the process to the afterlife? Did they all die in the plane crash?

Assuming they didn't die in the plane crash... and the island was "real," then it's nonsensical that the folks that didn't die early on would not have aged. Are we supposed to believe that Kate didn't go forth in her life and find another dude... have kids, etc? Just waiting around to die and go find Jack?

I don't know, if they want to trot out the "meeting place" aspect of the sideways world, then I think there are problems there.

[Haddock]

Jack's father tells him ''Everything that happened happened'' so, yeah, they didn't die in the original crash. It is as retarded as you say.

[jester]

Jack's father tells him ''Everything that happened happened'' so, yeah, they didn't die in the original crash. It is as retarded as you say.

Well, I think you could interpret it two ways. The first is the way you're taking it -- and I think the way they mean it -- the other is simply that it is all "real" in a sense that it happened, but that doesn't mean they weren't already into the afterlife.

I agree that they meant it as we were all on the island, and at some point everyone died in their own time and we all decided to come back together before moving on in the afterlife. But that means everyone who survived the island led fucking terribly pathetic and depressing lives without meaning to them.

[buddahsmoka1]

I agree that they meant it as we were all on the island, and at some point everyone died in their own time and we all decided to come back together before moving on in the afterlife. But that means everyone who survived the island led fucking terribly pathetic and depressing lives without meaning to them.

No it doesn't. It just means that the time on the island was the most important parts of each of their lives.

Everything that happened on the island was real, just like everything that happened off the island was real. The AR like you said was just a reality before letting go and moving on to the afterlife, if there indeed is one.

About the age differences, they remember the people that way, so that is the form that the people are going to take. They all needed to realize their own deaths and what was most important to them. It doesn't matter how long they lived after each other, or the differences, they all ended up in the same spot, with how they remembered each other.

And Haddock, I don't get what is so lazy about the writing, it was a great way to draw a conclusion on the character's stories, and leave certain plots to peoples imagination, like Hugo and Ben ruling the island, or Richard or Sawyer's lives after getting off the island.

I thought it was very well done.

[jester]

No it doesn't. It just means that the time on the island was the most important parts of each of their lives.

Everything that happened on the island was real, just like everything that happened off the island was real. The AR like you said was just a reality before letting go and moving on to the afterlife, if there indeed is one.

About the age differences, they remember the people that way, so that is the form that the people are going to take. They all needed to realize their own deaths and what was most important to them. It doesn't matter how long they lived after each other, or the differences, they all ended up in the same spot, with how they remembered each other.

And Haddock, I don't get what is so lazy about the writing, it was a great way to draw a conclusion on the character's stories, and leave certain plots to peoples imagination, like Hugo and Ben ruling the island, or Richard or Sawyer's lives after getting off the island.

I thought it was very well done.

They didn't meet other people? They didn't have children? For those that died on the island, that makes sense... for those that didn't, it doesn't. Kate really sat around pining over Jack the rest of her life so that she might meet him in the after life? Juliet and Sawyer, same deal?

From a good feeling perspective, that makes sense... but that's just taking it at the surface level of what they are giving you. The meaning of that ending is that the rest of their lives were a void, they didn't make meaningful connections to others once they returned.

That's sad. The island ruined their lives.

[Dr_Chimera]

Sick in the sense that it sucked? Having your characters ''already dead'' is one of the laziest form of writing you can possibly have. The whole flash-sideways, wich are more like flash-way-forward-in-the-future-where-everyone-is-dead was all for nothing. Just more emotional drivel. Give me another season of just Hugo and Ben running around the island.

ahahahaha

I don't watch this show, but I hope you're kidding. Otherwise that is absolutely hilarious. They went with that tired twist?

Oh, mercy.

[buddahsmoka1]

They didn't meet other people? They didn't have children? For those that died on the island, that makes sense... for those that didn't, it doesn't. Kate really sat around pining over Jack the rest of her life so that she might meet him in the after life? Juliet and Sawyer, same deal?

From a good feeling perspective, that makes sense... but that's just taking it at the surface level of what they are giving you. The meaning of that ending is that the rest of their lives were a void, they didn't make meaningful connections to others once they returned.

That's sad. The island ruined their lives.

They could have, doesn't mean it was anymore important. You can also argue that the last scene was through the perspective of Jack, as he was the last to fully understand his death and come to grips with it.

Also, the island DID NOT ruin their lives, far from it. Everyone's lives were fucking shit before they got to the island, the island helped them find themselves.

[buddahsmoka1]

ahahahaha

I don't watch this show, but I hope you're kidding. Otherwise that is absolutely hilarious. They went with that tired twist?

Oh, mercy.

No, its not how it was done.

[jester]

They could have, doesn't mean it was anymore important. You can also argue that the last scene was through the perspective of Jack, as he was the last to fully understand his death and come to grips with it.

Also, the island DID NOT ruin their lives, far from it. Everyone's lives were fucking shit before they got to the island, the island helped them find themselves.

And apparently do nothing of great meaning with their lives after they "found themselves."

[buddahsmoka1]

And apparently do nothing of great meaning with their lives after they "found themselves."

Well it depends what you mean by great meaning. Fuck, the vast majority of us live mundane lives and accomplish nothing of substantial value, and no, having a child or meeting someone else isn't really accomplishing anything.

Let's put it this way...if you were in that plane crash tomorrow and spent all that time on the island doing what they did, at the end of your life would you look back and say that was the most important/memorable part of your life? As it stands now in my life, I would personally say so.

[mcphee]

And apparently do nothing of great meaning with their lives after they "found themselves."

I watched the first year, my youngest was excited over a Lord of the Rings character being on television. I lost interest, as did she, and I'd drift back occasionally, but not quite know what was going on.

So last night, I figure, no hockey, why not ? I watched most of the catchup stuff, then watched the show, and I got this purgatory feeling. You ever talk to people 100% sold on reincarnation, the belief being that you come back until you get it right ?

I felt that they were kind of trying to get at belief systems somehow, but there were too many details confusing me.

[Donair Mo Dizzle]

ihavbe not seem theis program, i rely on torpedo cabbage to tell me if the shows these days are good

[Tom]

what a shit season, and that final episode, while being one of the best of the season, either ruins the entire season, or if you liked the season -> you hated the last ep.

The whole flash sideways was misdirection.

What a cheap everybodies happy ending.

Boone was on the island for like 30 days and followed around Locke then got used by him and died. He didn't have more fun as a rich kid?

Stupid shit, fuck those assholes.

[jester]

Well it depends what you mean by great meaning. Fuck, the vast majority of us live mundane lives and accomplish nothing of substantial value, and no, having a child or meeting someone else isn't really accomplishing anything.

Let's put it this way...if you were in that plane crash tomorrow and spent all that time on the island doing what they did, at the end of your life would you look back and say that was the most important/memorable part of your life? As it stands now in my life, I would personally say so.

I would hope -- assuming I have children, grandchildren... ya know, a life -- that at some point those connections would come to outweigh the ramifications of that plane crash.

Now, I understand why they did it that way... you've built the whole show around this island, you have to make it meaningful to your characters. I'm just pointing out the logical meaning of what that ending says about the lives those folks led after they got off the island.

[ArtSexDesign]

So the show is finally ending (or done). I tried to watch this, when a black cloud stepped up on the Negro from the Mummy movie and the first Bourne movie, that was it for me.

[Masterplan]

I also never got into this series. Did they get finded?

[mcphee]

I also never got into this series. Did they get finded?

and was there cannibalism ?

[Indrew]

Yes and no

[Masterplan]

and was there cannibalism ?

Did they eat the fat kid with glasses and blow the conch shell a couple times?

[mcphee]

Did they eat the fat kid with glasses and blow the conch shell a couple times?

It wasn't mentioned in the summary.

[discostu]

I would hope -- assuming I have children, grandchildren... ya know, a life -- that at some point those connections would come to outweigh the ramifications of that plane crash.

Now, I understand why they did it that way... you've built the whole show around this island, you have to make it meaningful to your characters. I'm just pointing out the logical meaning of what that ending says about the lives those folks led after they got off the island.

I think it's actually fairly plausible that none of those who escaped the island and then showed up in the flash sideways may have done anything substantial afterwards:

Kate - I actually think she'd finally end up in prison after she returned. How does she explain being on two planes that crashed while also having a history of blowing people up. At the very least she violated parole by going on the Ajira flight. If she doesn't go to prison, she'd probably go back to being on the run constantly and never really settling down.

Sawyer - He's in his 40's, and would still be mourning the loss of Juliet for a while. I could see him going back to his womanizing ways for a while and never really settling down.

Lapidus and Richard were never in the flash sideways, and Miles was, but I don't think he was in the final scene. But, assuming he was, he was still a bit of a loner, and, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he stayed single his whole life.

[Babych'D]

I read some schmo online hypothesizing that the plane crashed shortly after leaving the Island killing Kate, Frank, et al. Works for me - better that then assuming they all went home and simply waited to die in anticipation of reuniting with a motley cast of losers.

The biggest mystery of all - with a steady diet of papaya, boar, and some allegedly rationed Dharma leftovers - how did Hurley's weight never vary by more than a pound or so (in relation to fat eat-all-the-chicken Hurley in the other "place")?

[jester]

I read some schmo online hypothesizing that the plane crashed shortly after leaving the Island killing Kate, Frank, et al. Works for me - better that then assuming they all went home and simply waited to die in anticipation of reuniting with a motley cast of losers.

The biggest mystery of all - with a steady diet of papaya, boar, and some allegedly rationed Dharma leftovers - how did Hurley's weight never vary by more than a pound or so (in relation to fat eat-all-the-chicken Hurley in the other "place")?

Except Kate says that she's been waiting so long for Jack... which makes you think she led a life afterward. Obviously it's a "who knows," and will never be answered.

[Sawyer]

The Dharma Food Supply drops. WTF? Still going on 30 years later with no contact from the Dharma people? Who owned/ran the Dharma initiative? They knew the islands whereabouts but never did anything for 30 years except drop off supplies?

[Cao]

I read some schmo online hypothesizing that the plane crashed shortly after leaving the Island killing Kate, Frank, et al. Works for me - better that then assuming they all went home and simply waited to die in anticipation of reuniting with a motley cast of losers.

The biggest mystery of all - with a steady diet of papaya, boar, and some allegedly rationed Dharma leftovers - how did Hurley's weight never vary by more than a pound or so (in relation to fat eat-all-the-chicken Hurley in the other "place")?

the most striking image of hurley i have in my head is when hes just sitting there in the forest with a huge fucking tub of ranch dressing and dipping some snack into it

[buddahsmoka1]

The biggest mystery of all - with a steady diet of papaya, boar, and some allegedly rationed Dharma leftovers - how did Hurley's weight never vary by more than a pound or so (in relation to fat eat-all-the-chicken Hurley in the other "place")?

Hurley hoarded food a number of times.

[Craig]

the most striking image of hurley i have in my head is when hes just sitting there in the forest with a huge fucking tub of ranch dressing and dipping some snack into it

There was a snack? I thought he was just eating it with his hand. Think Winnie the Pooh with honey, but instead you have a dirty fat guy and ranch dressing.

I've pretty much considered Hurley to be Winnie the Pooh since that episode aired.

[Tom]

I was thinking this show dropped a few plot lines, and looks like I was right.

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[Haddock]

I was thinking this show dropped a few plot lines, and looks like I was right.

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BUT IT WAS ABOUT THE CHARAKTERZZZ!!!!! !!!