Broads Keeper League Salary Cap/Info

[Jonesey]

Team Cap Hit Cap Room
Jonesey (FM) $60,588,000 ($588,000)
NJ (NJ'S BW) $57,275,000 $2,725,000
mayoradamwest (adam west's) $58,254,333 $1,745,667
Dr_Chimera (messer) $59,529,000 $471,000
PredsFan77 (360Modena) $67,233,000 ($7,233,000)
le chic pois (wetlilies) $58,552,000 $1,448,000
Mr Bugg (Buggery) $52,153,000 $7,847,000
masterplan (MP's Goaltenders) $58,670,000 $1,330,000
CH4 (Beleuets) $60,464,000 ($464,000)
Indrew (indrew) $57,548,000 $2,452,000
Mowtown Madman (Rednecks) $58,995,000 $1,005,000
Roughneck (Floggers) $52,735,000 $7,265,000
dempsey_k (Nanooks) $59,910,000 $90,000




Also, if you disagree with something I have listed for your team, PM me. I am looking all this shit up myself so I may miss something.

[Jonesey]

C Michael Frolik $1,275,000 Protected Jordan Schroeder $0
C Matt Duchene $3,400,000 Protected Zach Budish $0
C Brooks Laich $2,067,000 Protected Nick Leddy $0
C Todd White $2,375,000 Protected Alexander Radulov $0
W Ilya Kovalchuk $6,400,000 Protected Jiri Hudler $0
W Alexander Semin $4,600,000
W Brad Boyes $4,000,000
W Blake Wheeler $2,825,000
W Kris Versteeg $3,083,000
W Steve Sullivan $3,750,000
W Bill Guerin $2,000,000
W Keith Tkachuk $2,150,000
D Mike Green $5,250,000
D Steve Eminger $1,125,000
D Christian Erhoff $3,100,000
D Carlo Colaiacovo $1,283,000
D Mark Giordano $892,000
D Rob Blake $3,500,000
G Carey Price $2,200,000
G Ray Emery $1,500,000
G Dan Ellis $1,750,000

BEN Patric Hornqvist $713,000 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN Manny Malhotra $700,000 $60,588,000 ($588,000)
BEN Kevin Klein $650,000
BEN Justin Pogge $0

[Jonesey]

C Mike Richards $5,750,000 Protected Brayden Scheen $0
C Travis Zajac $3,888,000 Protected Nazem Kadri $0
C Derrick Brassard $1,247,000 Protected Mattias Tedenby $0
C Brandon Dubinsky $1,850,000 Protected Robin Lehner $0
W Rick Nash $5,400,000 Protected Shawn Matthais $0
W Devin Setoguchi $1,247,000
W David Booth $4,250,000 IR
W David Perron $918,000 Rookie
W Alex Burrows $2,000,000
W Ryan Callahan $2,300,000
W Nik Antropov $4,062,000
W Alexei Ponikarovsky $2,105,000
D Mark Streit $4,100,000
D Jonathan Ericsson $900,000
D Tomas Kaberle $4,250,000
D Matt Niskanen $850,000
D Paul Ranger $933,000
D Tom Gilbert $4,000,000
G Semyon Varlamov $822,000
G Pascal LeClaire $3,800,000
G Ondrej Pavelec $1,433,000

BEN Max Afinogenov $800,000 Total Salary Cap Room
BEN Matt Lashoff $0 $57,548,000 $2,452,000
BEN Nik Hjlarmarsson $643,000
BEN

[Jonesey]

C Marc Savard $5,000,000 Protected Scott Glennie $0
C Paul Stastny $6,600,000 Protected Ryan Ellis $0
C T.J. Oshie $1,275,000 Protected Kevin Shattenkirk $0
C Artem Anisimov $822,000 Protected Cade Fairchild $0
W Corey Perry $5,325,000 Protected Colby Cohen $0
W Martin Havlat $5,000,000
W Marian Gaborik $7,500,000 IR James Wisniewski $2,750,000
W Wojtek Wolski $2,800,000
W Ville Leino $800,000
W Evander Kane $3,100,000
W Matt D'Agostini $500,000
W T.J. Galiardi $875,000
D Dion Phaneuf $6,500,000
D Erik Johnson $3,700,000
D James Wisniewski $2,750,000
D Anssi Salmela $613,000
D
D
G Ryan Miller $6,250,000
G Craig Anderson $1,812,000
G Antero Niittymaki $600,000

BEN Ryan Stoa $0 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN David Jones $838,000 $59,910,000 $90,000
BEN Cody Hodgson $0
BEN Zach Boychuk $0
BEN Aaron Palushaj $0
BEN Thomas McCollum $0

[Jonesey]

C Joe Thornton $7,200,000 Protected Bobby Sanguinetti $0
C Stephen Weiss $3,100,000 Protected Simon Despres $0
C Antoine Vermette $2,763,000 Protected Logan McMillan $0
C T.J. Hensick $850,000 Protected Jack Skille $0
W Dany Heatley $7,500,000 Protected Ben Maxwell $0
W James Neal $822,000
W Guillaume Latendresse $803,000
W Max Pacioretty $875,000
W Jarome Iginla $7,000,000
W Andrei Kostitsyn $3,250,000
W Chris Higgins $2,250,000
W Vaclav Prospal $1,100,000
D Dan Boyle $6,667,000
D Rostislav Klesla $1,600,000
D Ian White $850,000
D Stephane Robidas $1,500,000
D Alexandre Picard $800,000
D Roman Polak $1,100,000
G Mikka Kiprusoff $5,833,000
G Stephen Valiquette $725,000
G Cory Crawford $0

BEN Brandon Sutter $0 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN Alex Pietrangelo $3,196,000 $60,464,000 ($464,000)
BEN Matt Pelech $0
BEN Vladimir Sobotka $680,000

[Jonesey]

C John Mitchell $487,000 Protected Gardiner $0
C Steven Stamkos $3,725,000 Protected Brennan $0
C Tim Connolly $4,500,000 Protected Forsberg $0
C Andrew Ebbett $487,000 Protected Taffe $0
W Alexander Ovechkin $9,538,000 Protected Fast $0
W Chris Kunitz $3,725,000
W Patrick Eaves $500,000 IR Frans Nielsen $525,000
W Bobby Ryan $1,922,000
W Shane Doan $4,550,000
W Jamie Langenbrunner $2,800,000
W Teddy Purcell $600,000
W Ilkka Pikkarainen $500,000
D Denis Wideman $3,875,000
D Jason Demers $543,000
D Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000
D Sergei Gonchar $5,000,000
D Fedor Tyutin $2,844,000
D Chris Butler $850,000
G Evgeni Nabokov $5,375,000
G Jaroslav Halak $775,000
G Jon Quick $770,000

BEN Yann Dennis $500,000 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN Eric Fehr $772,000 $57,275,000 $2,725,000
BEN Jiri Tlusty $0
BEN Frans Nielsen $525,000

[MotownMadman]

Team Salary Cap Room
Jonesey (FM) $57,175,000 $2,825,000
NJ (NJ'S BW) $61,531,000 ($1,531,000)
mayoradamwest (wads) $0 $60,000,000
Dr_Chimera (messer) $0 $60,000,000
PredsFan77 (360Modena) $0 $60,000,000
le chic pois (wetlilies) $0 $60,000,000
Mr Bugg (brigade) $0 $60,000,000
masterplan (bandofmen) $0 $60,000,000
CH4 (Beleuets) $60,384,000 ($384,000)
Indrew (indrew) $57,548,000 $2,452,000
Mowtown Madman (Rednecks) $0 $60,000,000
Roughneck (Floggers) $0 $60,000,000
dempsey_k (Nanooks) $59,560,000 $440,000



Also, if you disagree with something I have listed for your team, PM me. I am looking all this shit up myself so I may miss something.


Although I'd love to have another 60 million to play with, alas, I have about 183k left in cap room. This is the Rednecks's salary info I posted in the drafting thread.


Zetterberg 6.083
Filpulla 3.000
Stajan 1.750
Helm .598
St Louis 5.250
Backes 2.500
Frolov 2.900
Cammaleri 6.000
Knuble 2.800
Holmstrom 2.250
Crombeen .873
Bergenheim .863
Kubina 5.000
Coburn 1.300
Quincey .525
Leopold 1.750
Montador 1.550
Huskins 1.700
Luongo 6.750
Hiller 1.300
Boyd .650
Clarkson .838
Ersberg .750
Myers 1.300
Vishnevskiy .822
Total: 59.817

All cap numbers came from nhlnumbers.com with the exceptions of Myers and Vishnevskiy, who both came from capgeek.com.

[dempsey_k]

Excellent work Jonesey, thanks for the help.

[Jonesey]

Although I'd love to have another 60 million to play with, alas, I have about 183k left in cap room. This is the Rednecks's salary info I posted in the drafting thread.

I haven't finished all the teams.. I am actually having to do some work today.

[PredsFan77]

So the nj in the penalty?

[Jonesey]

So the nj in the penalty?

you will be too after the rookies play their 10 games.

[PredsFan77]

Your cookin the books

[Jonesey]

C Eric Staal $8,250,000 Protected Kindl $0
C Anze Kopitar $6,800,000 Protected McDonagh $0
C John Tavares $3,750,000 Protected Enroth $0
C Olli Jokinen $5,250,000 Protected Thomas Hickey $0
W Zach Parise $3,125,000
W Patrick O'Sullivan $2,925,000
W Scott Hartnell $4,200,000 IR Milan Lucic $850,000
W IR Petr Sykora $1,600,000
W James van Riemsdyk $1,654,000
W
W
W
D Cam Barker $3,083,000
D Victor Hedman $3,500,000
D Brent Seabrook $3,500,000
D Marc Staal $827,000
D Ryan Parent $855,000
D Luke Schenn $2,975,000
G Pekka Rinne $725,000
G Tim Thomas $5,000,000
G Tukka Rask $3,200,000

BEN Jordan Staal $4,000,000 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN Michael Del Zotto $1,087,000 $67,233,000 ($7,233,000)
BEN Lars Eller $0
BEN Oscar Moller $802,000
BEN Cory Schneider $0
BEN Colin Wilson $1,725,000
IR Milan Lucic $850,000
IR Petr Sykora $1,600,000

[chiclet]

I sent you my stuff. Hope it's more helpful than harmful.

[Jonesey]

C Nicklas Backstrom $2,400,000 Protected Ferraro $0
C Mikko Koivu $3,250,000 Protected LeBlanc $0
C Patrick Berglund $1,247,000 Protected Gilles $0
C Ryan O'Reilly $880,000
W Patrick Kane $3,725,000
W Jakub Voricek $1,271,000
W Chris Stewart $850,000 IR Phil Kessel $5,400,000
W Mikkel Boedker $0
W Justin Abdelkader $850,000
W Ryan Smyth $6,250,000
W Alexei Kovalev $5,000,000
W
D Zach Bogosian $2,725,000
D Drew Doughty $3,475,000
D Marc-Eduard Vlasic $3,100,000
D Jay Bouwmeester $6,680,000
D Ryan Whitney $4,000,000
D Anton Stralman $732,000
G Martin Brodeur $5,200,000
G Josh Harding $1,100,000
G Jonathan Bernier $0

BEN Kyle Turris $0 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN Phil Kessel $5,400,000 $52,735,000 $7,265,000
BEN Mikael Backlund $0
BEN Eric Tangradi $0
BEN Karl Alzner $0
BEN Drayson Bowman $0

[Jonesey]

C Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Protected Colborne $0
C Patrick Sharp $3,900,000 Protected Carlson $0
C Matthew Lombardi $1,817,000 Protected Jonathan Blum $0
C Tyler Kennedy $725,000 Protected Paajarvi-Svensson $0
W Daniel Sedin $6,100,000 Protected Michal Neuvirth $0
W Ales Hemsky $4,100,000
W Nikita Filatov $2,196,000
W Matt Moulson $575,000 IR Daniel Sedin $6,100,000
W Jamie Benn $822,000 IR Johan Franzen $3,955,000
W Ryan Malone $4,500,000
W Justin Williams $3,500,000
W Teemu Selanne $2,625,000
D Shea Weber $4,500,000
D Duncan Keith $1,475,000
D Jack Johnson $1,425,000
D Kevin Bieska $3,750,000
D Alex Goligoski $1,833,000
D Matt Gilroy $1,750,000
G Marc-Andre Fleury $5,000,000
G Antti Niemi $827,000
G Ilya Bryzgalov $4,250,000

BEN Michael Grabner $0 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN Evgeny Grachev $0 $58,670,000 $1,330,000
BEN Brendan Morrison $1,500,000
BEN Jonas Gustavsson $900,000
IR Johan Franzen $3,955,000

[Jonesey]

C Jeff Carter $5,000,000 Protected Markstrom $0
C Vincent Lecavalier $7,727,000 Protected Cowan $0
C Ryan Kesler $1,750,000 Protected Irving $0
C David Krejci $3,750,000 Protected Subban $0
W Claude Giroux $822,000
W Simon Gagne $5,250,000
W Rene Bourque $1,350,000 IR Tomas Fleishmann $725,000
W Tuomo Ruutu $3,800,000
W David Moss $1,300,000
W Nigel Dawes $850,000
W Michal Repik $0
W Daniel Paille $1,125,000
D Ryan Suter $3,500,000
D Kris Letang $835,000
D Dan Hamhuis $2,000,000
D Joe Corvo $2,625,000
D Denis Grebishkov $3,150,000
D Josh Gorges $1,100,000
G Nicklas Backstrom $6,000,000
G Mike Smith $2,200,000
G

BEN Tomas Plekanec $2,750,000 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN Martin Hanzal $980,000 $58,552,000 $1,448,000
BEN Maxim Lapierre $688,000
BEN Mike Santorelli $0
BEN Angelo Esposito $0
IR Tomas Fleishmann $725,000

[Jonesey]

C Evgeni Malkin $8,700,000 Protected Josefson $0
C Joe Pavelski $1,637,000 Protected Allen $0
C Rich Peverley $487,000 Protected Joac Ericsson $0
C Mike Comrie $1,250,000 Protected Stefan Elliot $0
W Thomas Vanek $7,143,000 Protected John Lidgett $0
W Loui Eriksson $1,600,000
W Alex Tanguay $2,500,000 IR Marian Hossa $5,233,000
W Drew Stafford $1,900,000 IR Joe Pavelski $1,637,000
W Nicklas Bergfors $818,000
W Viktor Stalberg $850,000
W Marian Hossa $5,233,000
W Andrew Ladd $1,550,000
D Cory Murphy $0
D Zdeno Chara $7,500,000
D Chris Campoli $633,000
D Keith Yandle $1,200,000
D Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000
D Chris Pronger $6,250,000
G Steve Mason $905,000
G Chris Osgood $1,417,000
G

BEN Jordan Eberle $0 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN Calvin de Haan $0 $52,153,000 $7,847,000
BEN Patrick Maroon $0
BEN John Moore $0
BEN Tomas Tatar $0

[Jonesey]

C Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,000 Protected $0
C Valterri Filppula $3,000,000 Protected $0
C Matt Stajan $1,750,000 Protected $0
C Dustin Boyd $650,000 Protected $0
W Martin St. Louis $5,250,000
W David Backes $2,500,000
W Alexander Frolov $2,900,000
W Michael Cammalleri $6,000,000
W Mike Knuble $2,800,000
W Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000
W B.J. Crombeen $873,000
W Sean Bergenheim $863,000
D Braydon Coburn $1,300,000
D Kyle Quincey $525,000
D Jordan Leopold $1,750,000
D Steve Montador $1,550,000
D Kent Huskins $1,700,000
D Pavel Kubina $5,000,000
G Roberto Luongo $6,750,000
G Jonas Hiller $1,300,000
G Erik Ersberg $750,000

BEN Tyler Myers $1,300,000 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN Ivan Vishnevsky $0 $58,995,000 $1,005,000
BEN David Clarkson $838,000
BEN Darren Helm $598,000
BEN Jeff Schultz $715,000

[Jonesey]

C Sidney Crosby $8,700,000 Protected Ryno $0
C Jason Spezza $7,000,000 Protected Lee $0
C Peter Regin $620,000 Protected Silverberg $0
C Nathan Horton $4,000,000 Protected D. Toews $0
W Bryan Little $900,000
W Milan Michalek $4,333,333
W Brenden Morrow $4,100,000 IR Andreas Lilja $1,250,000
W Curtis Glencross $1,200,000 IR Cal Clutterbuck $726,000
W Daniel Alfredsson $4,875,000 IR Jannik Hansen $550,000
W Nick Foligno $850,000
W Jean-Francois Jacques $525,000
W Wayne Simmonds $822,000
D Erik Karlsson $1,300,000
D Marc Methot $1,012,000
D Matt Hunwick $1,450,000
D Luca Sbisa $875,000
D Kurtis Foster $600,000
D Nicklas Grossman $975,000
G Cam Ward $2,667,000
G Brian Elliot $850,000
G

IR Cal Clutterbuck $726,000 Cap Hit Cap Room
IR Jannik Hansen $550,000 $58,254,333 $1,745,667
BEN Gilbert Brule $800,000
BEN Steve Bernier $2,000,000
BEN Andreas Lilja $1,250,000
BEN Jussi Jokinen $1,700,000
BEN Henrik Sedin $6,100,000

[Jonesey]

C Ryan Getzlaf $5,325,000 Protected Goncharov $0
C Jonathan Toews $2,800,000 Protected Ekman-Larsson $0
C Sam Gagner $1,625,000 Protected Wiercioch $0
C Andrew Cogliano $1,133,000 Protected Chet Pickard $0
W Dustin Brown $3,175,000 Protected Loktionov $0
W Peter Mueller $1,700,000
W Patrick Marleau $6,300,000 IR Andrej Sekera $1,000,000
W Mason Raymond $883,000 IR Andrei Markov $5,750,000
W Milan Hejduk $3,900,000
W Kyle Okposo $1,672,000
W Dmitry Kulikov $1,325,000
W Enver Lisin $790,000
D Alexander Edler $3,250,000
D Marek Zidlicky $3,350,000
D Kris Russell $750,000
D Daniel Girardi $1,550,000
D Brian Rafalski $6,000,000
D Matt Carle $3,438,000
G Henrik Lundqvist $6,875,000
G Chris Mason $3,000,000
G

BEN Sergei Shirokov $0 Cap Hit Cap Room
IR Andrej Sekera $1,000,000 $59,529,000 $471,000
BEN Eric Nystrom $688,000
IR Andrei Markov $5,750,000
BEN Viktor Tikhonov $0

[Dr_Chimera]

I think somebody else should volunteer for this job. This is clearly wrong.

[Jonesey]

I think somebody else should volunteer for this job. This is clearly wrong.


what is wrong?

[Dr_Chimera]

what is wrong?

How can I have a total salary of over 63 and cap space of 3? Besides, I'm not at 63, not even close.

[Jonesey]

How can I have a total salary of over 63 and cap space of 3? Besides, I'm not at 63, not even close.

You have 2 rookies that aren't counting until they play their 10th games afaik.

so if you don't count them you have a total cap hit of $63,257,000, making you $3,257,000 over the cap.
,

[Dr_Chimera]

You have 2 rookies that aren't counting until they play their 10th games afaik.

so if you don't count them you have a total cap hit of $63,257,000, making you $3,257,000 over the cap.
,

No. Not really.

[Jonesey]

No. Not really.

What number are you coming up with then? I plugged your guys and their cap hits into my excel file and that's the total I'm showing you at.

[Dr_Chimera]

Marleau/Getzlaf/Brown - 6.3 + 5.325 + 3.175
Mueller/Toews/Lupul - 1.7 + 2.8 + 4.25
Raymond/Cogliano/Okposo - 0.83 + 1.133 + 1.672
Tambellini/Gagner/Shirokov - 0.587 + 1.625 + 1.35
Lisin/Tikhonov - 0.79 + 0

Rafalski/Edler - 6 + 3.25
Zidlicky/Sekera - 3.35 + 1
Russell/Girardi - 0.74 + 1.55
Kulikov/Gervais - 1.325 + 0.741
Markov - 0

Lundqvist/Mason - 6.87 + 3

---

59.363

[Jonesey]

Raymond is .883

You just added Lupul and dropped Gionta

Markov is $5,750,000 not 0.

[Dr_Chimera]

Raymond is .883

You just added Lupul and dropped Gionta

Markov is $5,750,000 not 0.

I mentioned about Lupul/Gionta already. This got me from about 60.1 to 54.4 or so. Where is the 63 coming from?

Markov is 0, because he's injured.

[Jonesey]

I mentioned about Lupul/Gionta already. This got me from about 60.1 to 54.4 or so. Where is the 63 coming from?

Markov is 0, because he's injured.

I didn't know Markov was injured. There's the difference.

[Dr_Chimera]

Okay. I didn't know the rookies didn't count till later. Good to know at least.

[Jonesey]

Okay. I didn't know the rookies didn't count till later. Good to know at least.

aren't we just a hoot?

dempsey came up with the rookie rule... doesn't make much sense but he's the boss.

[dempsey_k]

aren't we just a hoot?

dempsey came up with the rookie rule... doesn't make much sense but he's the boss.

I just want to make people sweat a little.

[mayoradamwest]

I added Kuba, hope that's cool.

[dempsey_k]

NJ - Bobby Ryan is a goner if you don't get back under the cap by 11:59PM EST Monday night.

[dempsey_k]

CH4 - Alexandre Picard is a goner if you don't get back under the cap by 11:59PM EST Monday night.

[nj the redeemer]

NJ - Bobby Ryan is a goner if you don't get back under the cap by 11:59PM EST Monday night.

Horseshit. As well as bullflop and horsefeathers.

You gonna make me crunch numbers to prove the redneck wrong?

[chiclet]

Horseshit. As well as bullflop and horsefeathers.

You gonna make me crunch numbers to prove the redneck wrong?

That sounds like a old-thyme challenge, nj.

[dempsey_k]

Horseshit. As well as bullflop and horsefeathers.

You gonna make me crunch numbers to prove the redneck wrong?

Well I might get around to doing it....... :pope:

[nj the redeemer]

*denotes players currently injured/not active on NHL roster

ANA Ebbet - 0.487
ANA Ryan - 1.922
ATL Armstrong - 2.4
BOS Wideman - 3.875
BUF Butler - 0.85
BUF Connolly - 4.5
CLB Tyutin - 2.844
DET Eaves - 0.5*
DET Kronwall - 3
LAK Purcell - 0.6
LAK Quick - 0.77
MTL Halak - 0.775
MTL Spacek - 3.833
NJD Danis - 0.5
NJD Langenbrunner - 2.8
NJD Pikkarainen - 0.5*
NYI Nielsen - 0.525*
PHX Doan - 4.55
PIT Gonchar - 5
PIT Kunitz - 3.725
SJ Nabokov - 5.375
TB Stamkos - 3.725
TOR Mitchell - 0.487
TOR Tlusty - 0.855*
WAS Fehr - 0.772*
WAS Ovechkin - 9.538


Gardiner
Brennan
Forsberg
Taffe
Fast

Total before IR/non-NHL roster adjustment = 64.708

Total after adjustment = 61.556

well, I'll be hornswaggled. We were both wrong. Must be new numbers on NHLnumbers since the season started... though I did start getting slack halfway thru the draft, prob. missed a player or forgot to carry the one.

Drop coming up.

EDIT: Armstrong didn't play on Saturday anyways due to undisclosed injury, so at least I remained under the cap in spirit.

[Dr_Chimera]

Damn, Ovechkin is one expensive motherfucker.

[nj the redeemer]

Damn, Ovechkin is one expensive motherfucker.

He better keep up the pace. I'm full of fringe players.

I'm finally having a look around the league and comparing myself to the competition, hopefully everyone else has a few pressbox pimps and minor league mopes on their starting 25.

Armstrong dropped, I'll keep on top of the comings and goings of my roster from here on in, I've been ker-jiggered with RL shit lately. If anyone feels like calling me out in this thread feel free, since this is a secondary yahoo account I got for this league I might not be on top of it like I am with the Life of John Muckler or my local cash leagues... I was thinking it'd be low-maintenance when I signed up... though I'm still balls-in.

$59.156

[Masterplan]

*denotes players currently injured/not active on NHL roster

ANA Ebbet - 0.487
ANA Ryan - 1.922
ATL Armstrong - 2.4
BOS Wideman - 3.875
BUF Butler - 0.85
BUF Connolly - 4.5
CLB Tyutin - 2.844
DET Eaves - 0.5*
DET Kronwall - 3
LAK Purcell - 0.6
LAK Quick - 0.77
MTL Halak - 0.775
MTL Spacek - 3.833
NJD Danis - 0.5
NJD Langenbrunner - 2.8
NJD Pikkarainen - 0.5*
NYI Nielsen - 0.525*
PHX Doan - 4.55
PIT Gonchar - 5
PIT Kunitz - 3.725
SJ Nabokov - 5.375
TB Stamkos - 3.725
TOR Mitchell - 0.487
TOR Tlusty - 0.855*
WAS Fehr - 0.772*
WAS Ovechkin - 9.538


Gardiner
Brennan
Forsberg
Taffe
Fast

Total before IR/non-NHL roster adjustment = 64.708

Total after adjustment = 61.556

well, I'll be hornswaggled. We were both wrong. Must be new numbers on NHLnumbers since the season started... though I did start getting slack halfway thru the draft, prob. missed a player or forgot to carry the one.

Drop coming up.

EDIT: Armstrong didn't play on Saturday anyways due to undisclosed injury, so at least I remained under the cap in spirit.

Hold the bus up there. Not active means AHL. All guys on a one-way ticket count do they not? You can't just say that a guy in the press box counts as zero....can you?

For simplicity of the pool, the only guys that you can count for zero should have a red IR or NA beside their names in Yahoo.

[Jonesey]

Hold the bus up there. Not active means AHL. All guys on a one-way ticket count do they not? You can't just say that a guy in the press box counts as zero....can you?

For simplicity of the pool, the only guys that you can count for zero should have a red IR or NA beside their names in Yahoo.

That's what I was going on.

[nj the redeemer]

Hold the bus up there. Not active means AHL. All guys on a one-way ticket count do they not? You can't just say that a guy in the press box counts as zero....can you?

For simplicity of the pool, the only guys that you can count for zero should have a red IR or NA beside their names in Yahoo.

I thought he was sent down. I'd've included Ebbett in my subtractions if I was removing healthy scratches.

So $59.6 whatever.

Either way, I got some juggling coming up.

[nj the redeemer]

$59.156

Minus Spaceks $3.833

$55.323

Plus Demers $0.543

$55.866

More to come.

[Jonesey]

Updated.

[Masterplan]

Why the fuck is there only one IR spot? I got Franzen and Gustavsson on the IR now, but can't add another player. Can I put Franzen to my protect list if the IR can't be changed? I suggest the IR spots be increased to 4 or 5 if possible for extreme cases.

[Masterplan]

I've added the Red Hot Radim Vrbata at $3.0M to fill the void left by Franzen's $3.955M going on the IR.

[dempsey_k]

Why the fuck is there only one IR spot? I got Franzen and Gustavsson on the IR now, but can't add another player. Can I put Franzen to my protect list if the IR can't be changed? I suggest the IR spots be increased to 4 or 5 if possible for extreme cases.

Yeah, good point. The NHL doesn't hold LTIR to one player we shouldn't either.

[dempsey_k]

However, one issue here ... multiple people on IR for us means that there's zero risk in me selecting a player like Gaborik or Havlat who both have a history of injuries. Maybe we should make it that the cap space made available by a second person on LTIR is cut in half.

[Masterplan]

However, one issue here ... multiple people on IR for us means that there's zero risk in me selecting a player like Gaborik or Havlat who both have a history of injuries. Maybe we should make it that the cap space made available by a second person on LTIR is cut in half.

The risk is wasting a high pick on Gaborik and having to use the waiver wire to fill in. Also, you still have to have the cap space when they come back so I don't see the problem. Edit: there should be at least two free IR slots anyway.

[dempsey_k]

The risk is wasting a high pick on Gaborik and having to use the waiver wire to fill in. Also, you still have to have the cap space when they come back so I don't see the problem. Edit: there should be at least two free IR slots anyway.

I can't create any more IR slots on the yahoo system without starting the league all over again. We can vote on it for next year.

There really is no risk because if Gabby goes down I can just sign up Sedin. Our free agent pool isn't just any pool.

[Masterplan]

I can't create any more IR slots on the yahoo system without starting the league all over again. We can vote on it for next year.

There really is no risk because if Gabby goes down I can just sign up Sedin. Our free agent pool isn't just any pool.

So can I drop Frazen on the IR to my Protection list (i.e. a 6th member of my protection list?)

[dempsey_k]

So can I drop Frazen on the IR to my Protection list (i.e. a 6th member of my protection list?)

Sure. I think we should keep the rule that there is only one IR 6th spot on the protection list.

[Masterplan]

Sounds good.

[Jonesey]

I'll update the thread with all moves after I get home from work.

[Masterplan]

Made some significant moves today, should have $630K cap space remaining.

[mayoradamwest]

Name
Regin 0.61
Spezza 7
Crosby 8.7
Jokinen 1.7
Little 0.9
Alfredsson 4.88
Simmonds 0.82
Foligno 0.85
Horton 4
Morrow 4.1
Michalek 4.3
Clutterbuck 0.73
Karlsson 1.3
Hunwick 1.45
Sbisa 0.88
Foster 0.6
Hejda 2
Methot 1.01
Sturm 3.5
Wellwood 1.2
Lupul 4.25
Hansen 0.55
Ward 2.67
Elliott 0.85


58.84 + IR space
Ryno
Brian Lee
Silfverberg
D. Teows


would like to trade Nathan Horton for a young forward.

[Jonesey]

Name
Regin 0.61
Spezza 7
Crosby 8.7
Jokinen 1.7
Little 0.9
Alfredsson 4.88
Simmonds 0.82
Foligno 0.85
Horton 4
Morrow 4.1
Michalek 4.3
Clutterbuck 0.73
Karlsson 1.3
Hunwick 1.45
Sbisa 0.88
Foster 0.6
Hejda 2
Methot 1.01
Sturm 3.5
Wellwood 1.2
Lupul 4.25
Hansen 0.55
Ward 2.67
Elliott 0.85


58.84 + IR space
Ryno
Brian Lee
Silfverberg
D. Teows


would like to trade Nathan Horton for a young forward.

MAW, I have you as over.. you can only have 2 folks with IR exemptions, I gave them to Lilja and Clutterbuck.

[mayoradamwest]

MAW, I have you as over.. you can only have 2 folks with IR exemptions, I gave them to Lilja and Clutterbuck.

oh, I didn't realize there was a limit of 2. Oh well, I'll fix it.

kinda sucks.

[Jonesey]

oh, I didn't realize there was a limit of 2. Oh well, I'll fix it.

kinda sucks.

as far as I know it's only 2.. dempsey, final word on the subject?

[mayoradamwest]

as far as I know it's only 2.. dempsey, final word on the subject?

if it changes, I'll ask for my drop back but I believe I'm in compliance now.

[Jonesey]

Ok, I appreciate it.. it's a pain in the ass keeping track of everyone who is on the IR..

[Jonesey]

maw, you can have Hejda back, I missed your Spacek for Grossman move.

[Jonesey]

First message updated with all current moves, dempsey please put Hejda back on mayoradamwest's team. Everyone is in compliance, but still many teams won't be once the rookie contracts kick in.

[mayoradamwest]

well, I'm an idiot.

edit; meh, screw hejda. I'll take the cap space and try and see if I can manage a trade a little easier. My cap management has been less than stellar thus far. :sperm:

[Jonesey]

Ok, updated without Hejda on your team.

[Masterplan]

C Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Protected Colborne $0
C Patrick Sharp $3,900,000 Protected Carlson $0
C Matthew Lombardi $1,817,000 Protected Jonathan Blum $0
C Tyler Kennedy $ 725,000 Protected Paajarvi-Svensson $0
W Ryan Malone $4,500,000 Protected Michal Neuvirth $0
W Ales Hemsky $4,100,000
W Nikita Filatov $2,196,000
W Matt Moulson $ 575,000
W Jamie Benn $ 822,000
W Radim Vrbata $3,000,000
W Ryan Shannon $ 600,000
W Teemu Selanne $2,625,000
D Shea Weber $4,500,000
D Duncan Keith $1,475,000
D Jack Johnson $1,425,000
D Kevin Bieska $3,750,000
D Alex Goligoski $1,833,000
D Matt Gilroy $1,750,000
G Marc-Andre Fleury $5,000,000
G Antti Niemi $ 827,000
G Ilya Bryzgalov $4,250,000

BEN Mika Pyorala $ 500,000
BEN Michael Grabner $ 844,000 Cap Hit Cap Room
BEN(NA) Evgeny Grachev $ 0 $58,614,000 $1,386,000
BEN Jonas Gustavsson $ 900,000
IR Johan Franzen $3,955,000
IR Daniel Sedin $6,100,000

[mayoradamwest]

didn't you just drop Johan Franzen?

[Masterplan]

didn't you just drop Johan Franzen?

He's on my protected list, as you can have only 1 IR, Dempsey said there's a 2nd IR on the protected list. Read back a page or two or read the top Commisioners Note.

[mayoradamwest]

He's on my protected list, as you can have only 1 IR, Dempsey said there's a 2nd IR on the protected list. Read back a page or two or read the top Commisioners Note.

Ok, I thought the protected list was for players not in the NHL and the IR was for players on the injured reserve.

As in, aren't they two separate things? What's the deal with our IR rules here? Yahoo has an IR slot which allows you to pick up an extra player that way, if someone is on your team they should stay on your team. If guys are available in the yahoo system but on teams, it's just added confusion.

If I see an available guy who's active in some form, I'm working on the assumption they're available. Kind of annoying if they aren't. How long can you keep a guy on yahoo waivers but on your team?

[Masterplan]

Ok, I thought the protected list was for players not in the NHL and the IR was for players on the injured reserve.

As in, aren't they two separate things? What's the deal with our IR rules here? Yahoo has an IR slot which allows you to pick up an extra player that way, if someone is on your team they should stay on your team. If guys are available in the yahoo system but on teams, it's just added confusion.

If I see an available guy who's active in some form, I'm working on the assumption they're available. Kind of annoying if they aren't. How long can you keep a guy on yahoo waivers but on your team?

Dempsey only created one IR spot, which he can't change without restarting the league again, so we did this as the alternative to allow for 2 IR spots. If you gots a better solution let us know.

[mayoradamwest]

Dempsey only created one IR spot, which he can't change without restarting the league again, so we did this as the alternative to allow for 2 IR spots. If you gots a better solution let us know.

I thought we were just eating it if guys got hurt. I've been bit by the injury bug myself. Just strange working with two sets of rules.


If that's the case though, if Lilja isn't on anyone else's protected list I'll slide him onto mine.

[dempsey_k]

If that's the case though, if Lilja isn't on anyone else's protected list I'll slide him onto mine.

I'll update but from what I hear on Lilja it could be pretty bad long term.

[chiclet]

My team is absolutely fucked. And I'm too busy to fix it. Thing will turn around. Tomorrow is always brighter.

[Beigne]

can I switch protected players with bench players anytime I want?

or only in off season?

[dempsey_k]

can I switch protected players with bench players anytime I want?

or only in off season?

Any time you want just notify me.

[Jonesey]

and please post here, as well as putting guys on the IR so I can be sure your cap number is right.

[Jonesey]

Updated thread.. almost time for some rookies to start counting..

[Jonesey]

I am about to remove the rookies from the cap protection list, however you will not offischel'ly be on the hook until they play game #10.


I just wanted to give everyone a heads up.

[Beigne]

my guess is that with pietrangelo I'll be over cap, right?

[Beigne]

my calculations are that he in already counted in my cap on the first page...


therefore, I put Pietrangelo on my protection list, and put Skille on my active list.

I now have over 2 millions free of cap space, if someone is interested to trade..

[Jonesey]

my calculations are that he in already counted in my cap on the first page...


therefore, I put Pietrangelo on my protection list, and put Skille on my active list.

I now have over 2 millions free of cap space, if someone is interested to trade..

I don't think you can move him unless he gets sent back to Juniors.. otherwise people could hide anyone on the protection list and a salary cap would be pointless.

Anyways, you have his $3 million whatever still available until he plays in game #10.

[mayoradamwest]

my calculations are that he in already counted in my cap on the first page...


therefore, I put Pietrangelo on my protection list, and put Skille on my active list.

I now have over 2 millions free of cap space, if someone is interested to trade..

I'd be interested in those guys.

[PredsFan77]

who wants staal or kopitar?

[mayoradamwest]

who wants staal or kopitar?

I'd be interested in Kopitar.

[PredsFan77]

i need to put lucic on my second IR

[nj the redeemer]

I'd be interested in Kopitar.

[Jonesey]

Lucic is on the IR.. you are still almost $10 million over.

[chiclet]

I've got a bunch of guys on my team who were sent down ages ago. Can I assume they are retro-actively not counting toward my cap and can I pick up some other players? My team is in a shambles and I need to fix it when I can find time. I'm not worried just yet, but I'd rather fix it sooner than later eh

[Jonesey]

I've got a bunch of guys on my team who were sent down ages ago. Can I assume they are retro-actively not counting toward my cap and can I pick up some other players? My team is in a shambles and I need to fix it when I can find time. I'm not worried just yet, but I'd rather fix it sooner than later eh

check what i have counting for your team... if they aren't in the NHL, they should have a 0 for cap hit.

[chiclet]

Ah ok. I'm still good. And I have about 1.5 million space. I just need more active bodies. Thanks, jonesy.

[Masterplan]

Lucic is on the IR.. you are still almost $10 million over.

How long does he have before forfeiture of players? and which players are on the block?

[Beigne]

I don't think you can move him unless he gets sent back to Juniors.. otherwise people could hide anyone on the protection list and a salary cap would be pointless.

Anyways, you have his $3 million whatever still available until he plays in game #10.

what I want is to activate skille from the protection list.

activate Skille and send down Pelech, Sobotka or sutter?

then if Pietrangelo isn't sent down, I'll be fucked because I can't desactivate skille anymore, and I can't desactivate pietrangelo...

anyway he'll end up in juniors.

[Jonesey]

How long does he have before forfeiture of players? and which players are on the block?

That's up to the commish.

what I want is to activate skille from the protection list.

activate Skille and send down Pelech, Sobotka or sutter?

then if Pietrangelo isn't sent down, I'll be fucked because I can't desactivate skille anymore, and I can't desactivate pietrangelo...

anyway he'll end up in juniors.

If it were up to me, you would be able to have anyone not on an NHL roster on your protection list, but something I think Dempsey would have to have the final word on.

[Jonesey]

Updated.

[nj the redeemer]

Gonchar going on IR tomorrow I imagine... Nielsen is due back soon too, so I'll have some calculating to do and an addition to make.

[PredsFan77]

I need to add MacLean to my protected list please.

[Masterplan]

Our Keeper league needs a cooler name then "The Life of Muckler". My suggestion is "Why did Burke Cross the Road?"

[Masterplan]

Did I mention I took the lead last night?! :danson:

[nj the redeemer]

Can I drop a protected Gonchar and grab someone else already? Yahoo is being a dick with their IR status again... or do I have to wait for him to be put on IR IRL LOL?

[Beigne]

now can someone answers me for my Pietrangelo vs Skille move?

[PredsFan77]

who wants eric staal for cheap?

[dempsey_k]

Can I drop a protected Gonchar and grab someone else already? Yahoo is being a dick with their IR status again... or do I have to wait for him to be put on IR IRL LOL?

I'll put him on your Protection List IR temporarily, go ahead and add somebody. Send me a PM when he's IR on Y! LOL

[nj the redeemer]

D Sergei Gonchar on IR ($5.0m)

Added D Lubomir Visnovsky ($5.6m)

[mayoradamwest]

Sbisa is apparently being sent down, but hasn't as of yet.

If anyone spots confirmation on this can you please let me know?

[PredsFan77]

maclean fix pleaseeee!

[dempsey_k]

maclean fix pleaseeee!

d-d-d-one

[nj the redeemer]

Jiri Tlusty getting called up. I got to crunch numbers and drop someone I s'pose, cause I'm really close to the rafters.

[chiclet]

Ok, I've got Simona Gagne on IR and Tomas Fleischmann back off of it. Should have more room now...I think.

[dempsey_k]

With Savard on the IR I won't be dropping Evander Kane just yet.

[nj the redeemer]

Jiri Tlusty getting called up. I got to crunch numbers and drop someone I s'pose, cause I'm really close to the rafters.

Recent Changes:

C Frans Nielsen activated from IR
D Gonchar placed on IR, D Visnovsky added
C Jiri Tlusty active

Leaving the Bay Wops $745k under the cap.

[chiclet]

I need math help. What do I do?

[dempsey_k]

I need math help. What do I do?

Ironchef Chris Wok

[chiclet]

I can't believe how shitty my team is. It's almost unfathomable.

[nj the redeemer]

Forsberg's back with the Swedish national team... he's totally coming back to the NHL to push the Avs into the playoffs.

[dempsey_k]

Forsberg's back with the Swedish national team... he's totally coming back to the NHL to push the Avs into the playoffs.

He'll make a fantastic addition to somebody's Injured Reserve after 15 games where he accumulates 22pts.

[mayoradamwest]

Blockbuster.

Messer Chups deal Alex Edler to maw's adam wests for brian lee.

[nj the redeemer]

Blockbuster.

Messer Chups deal Alex Edler to maw's adam wests for brian lee.

fuck... TSN isn't gonna be fit to watch for at least a week after that one.

[nj the redeemer]

Recent Transactions:

Waived D Lubomir Visnovsky and W Ilkka Pikkarainen

reassigned C Jiri Tlusty to AHL

Signed FAs W Lee Stempniak and D Marek Zidlicky

$1.850m under the cap

EDIT: That's without bothering to take Ovechkins salary off the books as my second IR. My only current injured reservist is Gonchar.

[chiclet]

I don't really understand how the cap numbers work. Gagne's on IR - can I drop his entire salary? Or is it pro-rated from the day he was put on IR. If so, how do I calculate that?

[Dr_Chimera]

Blockbuster - the sequel:

Messer Chups send Kulikov to the Adam Wests for Nick Foligno

*Cums*

[dempsey_k]

I don't really understand how the cap numbers work. Gagne's on IR - can I drop his entire salary? Or is it pro-rated from the day he was put on IR. If so, how do I calculate that?

Whoever you put on the IR on the yahoo system has their salary dropped.

You can also add somebody to your protect list for a second IR slot, their salary is dropped too. If you have three injured people, you're fucked.

[nj the redeemer]

waived W Lee Stempniak, signed free agent W Clarke MacArthur

now $2.95m under the salary cap.

I'll wait to sober up next time before dicking with my roster.

EDIT: those two games for Tlusty push me up another nine grand. Officially $2.941 under the cap.

[chiclet]

Repik's down again and so is Letang, being on IR - so that's about another $1 million. I should have about $6 million in space now. Anyone looking to shed?

[Masterplan]

Filatov has been loaned to Russia: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=298705 I assume that means his $2.196M cap hit is off the books?

[Masterplan]

Also Grachev to my Protected list and I`m bringing up Neuvirth.

[dempsey_k]

Filatov has been loaned to Russia: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=298705 I assume that means his $2.196M cap hit is off the books?

Yup. KHL doesn't count.

[Dr_Chimera]

Yup. KHL doesn't count.

Boo.

[nj the redeemer]

Waiving D Fedor Tyutin

Activating D Sergei Gonchar from injured reserve.

Now $785k under the cap.

[Masterplan]

Filatov to my Protection List, recall Carlson

[Masterplan]

I'm looking to move Bieksa ($3.75M through next year). PM or propose a trade.

[chiclet]

Whoever you put on the IR on the yahoo system has their salary dropped.

You can also add somebody to your protect list for a second IR slot, their salary is dropped too. If you have three injured people, you're fucked.

I will drop Letang and put him on my protect list as he is IR.

I've also added Thomas Greiss as a goalie.

I should have around 5.5 million in space or more.

[chiclet]

Oh wait, maybe I've made a mistake. I can't just drop two players can I and assume they are protected? Ok. Well, ignore the two players I dropped on Yahoo and I'll drop Greiss right away. Fuck.

[dempsey_k]

OK I think the unwritten constitution has gone on long enough, I'll draw up the real deal sometime this weekend and we can all discuss changes for next year.

[Dr_Chimera]

I dropped on Yahoo and I'll drop Greiss right away. Fuck.

Yoink!

[chiclet]

Yoink!

Is that fair? I was posting here in good faith.

[Dr_Chimera]

Is that fair? I was posting here in good faith.

Actually, you initially snapped up Greiss just before I was going to.

[chiclet]

Actually, you initially snapped up Greiss just before I was going to.

Fair enough. But I only dropped him because I thought I had broken the rules. Had I?

[dempsey_k]

Wait a minute, what happened exactly? Give me a full summary in TPS report form.

[Dr_Chimera]

Fair enough. But I only dropped him because I thought I had broken the rules. Had I?

Oh, I don't know. I thought you just changed your mind.

[chiclet]

Oh, I don't know. I thought you just changed your mind.

No. I didn't change my mind. I thought I had broken the rules and so I dropped Greiss.

I dropped Repik and Espo from my Yahoo! roster thinking they would be protected and not count against my cap. Having done that, I picked up Greiss.

It then occurred to me that may be illegal in our pool in that I may be over the protect limit and that Repik and Espo may be exposed to waivers.

I then posted on here that I had made a mistake and that I would drop Greiss - suggesting to others not to claim my guys as it had been a technical mistake.

In short: I still wanted Greiss but I also wanted to protect Repik and Espo.

If it comes down to a choice, I will take Repik and Espo being protected over Greiss as an FA.

Hope that's clear and sorry to the Dr. for the confusion.

[Dr_Chimera]

Oh, ok. Dempsey should make the call then. I don't know the rules all that well.

[chiclet]

Oh, ok. Dempsey should make the call then. I don't know the rules all that well.

For sure. I'm good either way. My fuck-up, not yours.

[dempsey_k]

No. I didn't change my mind. I thought I had broken the rules and so I dropped Greiss.

I dropped Repik and Espo from my Yahoo! roster thinking they would be protected and not count against my cap. Having done that, I picked up Greiss.

It then occurred to me that may be illegal in our pool in that I may be over the protect limit and that Repik and Espo may be exposed to waivers.

I then posted on here that I had made a mistake and that I would drop Greiss - suggesting to others not to claim my guys as it had been a technical mistake.

In short: I still wanted Greiss but I also wanted to protect Repik and Espo.

If it comes down to a choice, I will take Repik and Espo being protected over Greiss as an FA.

Hope that's clear and sorry to the Dr. for the confusion.

Esposito is already protected, you have 5 protect spots. If you want Repik protected too, you'll have to pick one of these guys to drop:

Sopping Wet Lilies:
Markstrom
Cowen
Irving
Subban
Esposito

You only have 24 players on your roster, leaving one space on your Yahoo! roster for either Repik or Greiss, but no space for them on your protect list unless you drop one. Since you said you want Repik and Espo above, you can add Repik back onto your roster yourself on Yahoo!, don't need me to do it for you.

[chiclet]

Esposito is already protected, you have 5 protect spots. If you want Repik protected too, you'll have to pick one of these guys to drop:

Sopping Wet Lilies:
Markstrom
Cowen
Irving
Subban
Esposito

You only have 24 players on your roster, leaving one space on your Yahoo! roster for either Repik or Greiss, but no space for them on your protect list unless you drop one. Since you said you want Repik and Espo above, you can add Repik back onto your roster yourself on Yahoo!, don't need me to do it for you.

Ah, okay. So I was right - I had broken the rules after all. I'm going to take Repik back and, Dr, you can keep Griess, no harm no foul.

As long as no dicks claim Repik from waivers.

Sorry for the confusion. Continue your weekends

[Dr_Chimera]

Sweet. Greiss will win me this pool!

[Masterplan]

Sedin is back I've gotta make moves to fix my cap situation. Looking to move Bieksa for a pick? or best offer else he'll be on waivers before game time tonight.

[Masterplan]

I also believe I will be dropping Justin Williams, so if you want him without going through waivers he'll only cost you a mid to late round pick....

[Masterplan]

Big Trade News:

Masterplan sends J. Williams to Chicpea for 7th rounder.

Other sources have confirmed Masterplan is still taking calls for the services of Bieksa. Masterplan has been quoted in saying a deal must be completed before puck drop tonight or Kevin will find himself on waivers...stay tuned.

[chiclet]

C Jeff Carter $5,000,000 Protected Markstrom $0
C Vincent Lecavalier $7,727,000 Protected Cowan $0
C Ryan Kesler $1,750,000 Protected Irving $0
C Brad Richards $7,800,000 Protected Subban $0
W Benoit Pouliot $583,000 Protected Esposito $0
W Claude Giroux $822,000 IR Williams $0
W Brian Gionta $5,000,000 IR Lehtonen $0
W Jussi Jokinen $1,700,000
W Tomas Fleishmann $725,000
W Rene Bourque $1,350,000
W Tuomo Ruutu $3,800,000
W Justin Williams $3,500,000
W Niklas Hagman $3,000,000
D Ryan Suter $3,500,000
D Kris Letang $835,000
D Ladislav Smid $1,300,000
D Tobias Enstrom $3,750,000
G Nicklas Backstrom $6,000,000
G Mike Smith $2,200,000
G Kari Lehtonen $3,000,000

BEN Tomas Plekanec $2,750,000 Cap Hit$59,592,000 Cap Room $408,000
BEN Mike Santorelli $0
BEN Michal Repik $0




Dropped C Lapierre and I have an empty slot on my yahoo.
Dropped Corvo

[nj the redeemer]

I have an empty slot on my yahoo.

TWSS :danson:

[nj the redeemer]

Can I put Kronwall on IR already? word is he's gone for a month.

[nj the redeemer]

Placing D Niklas Kronwall on injured reserve

Adding D Fedor Tyutin

Currently $941K under the salary cap

[dempsey_k]

dropped :
Havlat
Salmela
Leino
Galiardi

added:
Malone

current budget:
Marc Savard ($5.0)
Paul Stastny ($6.6)
T.J. Oshie ($1.275)
Artem Anisimov ($0.822)
Corey Perry ($5.325)
Evander Kane ($3.1)
Marian Gaborik ($7.5)
Wojtek Wolski ($2.8)
Dion Phaneuf ($6.5)
Erik Johnson ($3.7)
James Wisniewski ($2.75)
Ryan Miller ($6.25)
Craig Anderson ($1.813)
Antero Niittymaki ($0.6)
David Jones ($0.838)
Ryan Malone ($4.5)
Matt D'Agostini ($0.5)
$59.506


Non-Roster Players (minors college or juniors)
Zach Boychuk ($1.196)
Cody Hodgson ($1.696)
Aaron Palushaj ($0.883)
Thomas McCollum ($0.846)
Ryan Stoa ($0.85)
Scott Glennie (N/A)
Ryan Ellis (N/A)
Kevin Shattenkirk (N/A)
Cade Fairchild (N/A)
Colby Cohen (N/A)

[nj the redeemer]

Mitchell is out for 6 weeks or so. Placing him on my second IR slot, pick up to come.

[nj the redeemer]

Placed C John Mitchell on IR

Waived W Chris Kunitz

Added C Mike Fisher

$953K under the cap, one roster spot open

[mayoradamwest]

Regin 0.61 C
Spezza 7 C
Crosby 8.7 C
Little 0.9 W
Alfredsson 4.88 W
Simmonds 0.82 W
Sedin 6.1 C
Horton 4 CW
Morrow 4.1 W
Michalek 4.3 W
Clutterbuck 0.73 W
Parse 0.49 W
Hunwick 1.45 D
Cody Franson 0.64 D
Kulikov 1.33 D
Brouwer 1 W
Hansen 0.5 W
Bailey 1.73 C
Greene 0.78 D
Elliott 0.85 G
Edler 3.25 D
Abdelkader 0.84
Meech 0.48 D
biron 1.4 G
Legace 0.5 G
Howard .717
IR: Cam Ward 2.67

Total: 58.08

protected:

Salak
Karlsson
Sbisa
Silfverberg
Ryno

[nj the redeemer]

Added W, D Matt Carkner

$453k under the cap

[Masterplan]

Winning both the Keeper and the Keeper Fuck-up!!! What a sweet day it is...

[dempsey_k]

Winning both the Keeper and the Keeper Fuck-up!!! What a sweet day it is...

New Rule: In the Spirit of Communism, I'll be taking away the best team's top performers and giving them to Santa.

[mayoradamwest]

called up D Erik Karlsson. (not sure why.)

going to have to make a move when Ward comes back if Karlsson stays up.

out of last place! :banana:

[chiclet]

Added
Upshall (W): 1.500
and Enstrom (D): 3.750

with

Bourque (W): 1.350
Grebishkov (D): 3.150
Letang (D): 0.835
on IR

Dropped
Corvo (D): 2.625

[dempsey_k]

Added
Upshall (W): 1.500
and Enstrom (D): 3.750

with

Bourque (W): 1.350
Grebishkov (D): 3.150
Letang (D): 0.835
on IR

Dropped
Corvo (D): 2.625

Only 2 spots for IR, one on Yahoo, one on your protection list (where you'd have to drop the player).

[chiclet]

Only 2 spots for IR, one on Yahoo, one on your protection list (where you'd have to drop the player).

Yes. Fixed. Dropped Grebishkov and Moss, added Briere.

.536 under the cap with 2 on IR

[dempsey_k]

MP, is Hemsky going to your protect list IR or are you dumping him for real?

[Dr_Chimera]

Looks like Jonesey has been asleep at the wheel for a while.

[chiclet]

Looks like Jonesey has been asleep at the wheel for a while.

Yes. And because of that, I just had to spend an hour cooking my books.

[dempsey_k]

nj - put Kronwall on your Yahoo IR so he doesn't look like a low hanging fruit, he's IR ready, shouldn't take away from your 25 players on the team.

[Dr_Chimera]

nj - put Kronwall on your Yahoo IR so he doesn't look like a low hanging fruit, he's IR ready, shouldn't take away from your 25 players on the team.

I thought he was available. My understanding was that a guy on IR stays on roster or becomes part of the protect list. That's why I initially snagged him.

I don't understand the rules here.

[Dr_Chimera]

In which case, I want Glencross back and Markov added to my protect list (off my roster).

[dempsey_k]

In which case, I want Glencross back and Markov added to my protect list (off my roster).

Done.

[dempsey_k]

Whenever you want to put somebody on your protection list injured reserve, use those words or "2nd IR" "2nd Injured reserve slot" etc. Shoot me a PM or post it here or both.

[nj the redeemer]

nj - put Kronwall on your Yahoo IR so he doesn't look like a low hanging fruit, he's IR ready, shouldn't take away from your 25 players on the team.

He and Mitchell were delayed in getting their IR listing, and time was ticking. I keep a running tab here. Dr. Chimera best get his head out of his ass.

My two IR spots are eaten up with Mitchell and Kronwall. Need me to juggle to get someone back on my roster, or can you do it?

[dempsey_k]

He and Mitchell were delayed in getting their IR listing, and time was ticking. I keep a running tab here. Dr. Chimera best get his head out of his ass.

My two IR spots are eaten up with Mitchell and Kronwall. Need me to juggle to get someone back on my roster, or can you do it?

I can put Kronwall on your Yahoo IR but it won't be in effect until tomorrow. I added Mitchell to your 2nd IR. Can't have two of either but can have both.

[dempsey_k]

nj - I can't put Kronwall on your IR directly, unless you drop a player, this yahoo system is bullshit. I'll put him on your protect list for now until something changes.

[Dr_Chimera]

He and Mitchell were delayed in getting their IR listing, and time was ticking. I keep a running tab here. Dr. Chimera best get his head out of his ass.

No harm no foul. That's why we have the commish.

[chiclet]

nj + dr c. get a rm

[Dr_Chimera]

nj + dr c. get a rm

Shut it, basement dweller.

[chiclet]

Shut it, basement dweller.

I'm in rebuild mode.

[Dr_Chimera]

I'm in rebuild mode.

Me too. Next year will be spectaculous.

P.S. Anyone want Marleau?

[nj the redeemer]

No harm no foul. That's why we have the commish.

No worries, my tone comes off as harsh when I'm typing in a hurry. I'm pretty meticulous with my roster, but Yahoo's always been a slut when it comes to IR, and I have little patience for 'em. Most pools I'm in are slack, the commish lets Yahoo dictate the terms and would have let you off with a steal. It's nice to be able to log things here and have it looked after.

[Dr_Chimera]

No worries, my tone comes off as harsh when I'm typing in a hurry. I'm pretty meticulous with my roster, but Yahoo's always been a slut when it comes to IR, and I have little patience for 'em. Most pools I'm in are slack, the commish lets Yahoo dictate the terms and would have let you off with a steal. It's nice to be able to log things here and have it looked after.

Next round of hookers is on you.

[Masterplan]

MP, is Hemsky going to your protect list IR or are you dumping him for real?

Hemsky to my protection list, Franzen is on my IR and Grabner is counting. Drop Hunter and Reinprecht and add Elias and I've got $114K cap space.

Frig I'm good.

[chiclet]

Me too. Next year will be spectaculous.


I'm aiming for 8th this year.

[Masterplan]

I'm aiming for 8th this year.

Way to set the bar high...

[mayoradamwest]

Cam Ward is set to come off the IR

My team is starting to heat up, right up against the cap though. Any interest in Matt Hunwick? He should put up a fair amount of points once he tightens up defensively but already has 4 goals this year, willing to deal him for a late pick.



Regin 0.61
Spezza 7
Crosby 8.7
Little 0.9
Alfredsson 4.88
Simmonds 0.82
Sedin 6.1
Horton 4
Morrow 4.1
Michalek 4.3
Hansen 0.5
Hunwick 1.45
Cody Franson 0.64
Kulikov 1.33
Brouwer 1
Karlsson 1.3
Bailey 1.73
Greene 0.78
Elliott 0.85
Edler 3.25
Meech 0.48
biron 1.4
Ward 2.67
Howard 0.71



Total: 59.49



I still have a couple days before Ward comes back, technically he's still on the IR so my cap number is currently around 56.

[MotownMadman]

CORRECTION:
Filpulla and Clarkson dropped (both on IR). Please place on my protect list (I believe only Vishnevisky is on my protect list).


I picked up Brunette and Clowe as FA's. I don't believe that they are on anyone's protect list.

I want to make sure that this is kosher, so I'll wait to put them on the ice.

[mayoradamwest]

CORRECTION:
Filpulla and Clarkson dropped (both on IR). Please place on my protect list (I believe only Vishnevisky is on my protect list).


I picked up Brunette and Clowe as FA's. I don't believe that they are on anyone's protect list.

I want to make sure that this is kosher, so I'll wait to put them on the ice.

Brunette and Clowe were free afaik, I've been waiting for someone to grab Clowe for a while now.

[nj the redeemer]

waiving C Peter Forsberg from protection list

adding D Jason Demers to protection list

adding D Niklas Kronwall to roster under injured reserve

waiving W Teddy Purcell, W, D Matt Carkner

adding D Jack Hillen, W Mark Recchi

$580k under the cap.

Wouldn't mind unloading a center for a winger or possible a defenceman, but the Bay Wops can't take on salary... looking to scrape off another $500k if possible.

[chiclet]

waiving C Peter Forsberg from protection list

adding D Jason Demers to protection list

adding D Niklas Kronwall to roster under injured reserve

waiving W Teddy Purcell, W, D Matt Carkner

adding D Jack Hillen, W Mark Recchi

$580k under the cap.

Wouldn't mind unloading a center for a winger or possible a defenceman, but the Bay Wops can't take on salary... looking to scrape off another $500k if possible.

Made you an offer over at yahoo to save a little bit at least.

[Masterplan]

CORRECTION:
Filpulla and Clarkson dropped (both on IR). Please place on my protect list (I believe only Vishnevisky is on my protect list).


I picked up Brunette and Clowe as FA's. I don't believe that they are on anyone's protect list.

I want to make sure that this is kosher, so I'll wait to put them on the ice.

How many guys can be added to the IR? I thought we were only allowed one on the roster and one on the protection list??

[Masterplan]

My other question is how does the off season work? Do we a) lose only guys who become unrestricted free agents? or b) do we just get to pick our keepers? or some hybrid of both?

If a):
-what happens to RFA's? and guys who sign extensions?
-can I add / drop guys in the offseason or not?

If b):
- is the number of keepers unlimited or how many do we get?

The original post was as follows:

Once a player's true NHL contract is up, he becomes a free agent. Unrestricted Free Agents will be available in the UFA draft to be held at the end of each September immediately preceding the next year's league. We won't have any such draft this September 2009, but will in '10. RFAs cannot be drafted, and remain with you regardless if they switch NHL teams. You must consider the possibility of their contractual raises each summer when planning your long term goals.


I've just gotta plan my course for next year. My vote would be some sort of hybrid where:

1. All players that were slated as UFA's in 2010 whether they are extended or not become UFA's. Available in the draft.
2. Unlimited keepers, but you must decide a week or two prior to the UFA draft which players you are keeping and which will re-enter draft.
3. Player trading is allowed after the finals, however adding/dropping players is not. (But teams must stay below the 30 player max.)

Rule 1: Keeps some turnover in the league as players are often extended before July 1.

Rule 2: Gives GM's some flexibility without having to do a major sell off at the trade deadline of RFA's going onto steep raises.

Rule 3: Allows some pre-draft/draft-day movement of players and/or picks.

That's my two cents anyway...

Other questions/thoughts:

- When we set up next years pool make sure there are 2 IR slots, so we don't have any of this confusion on protected players.
- The cap number should be set at the actual cap + $X Million to account for the 3rd goalie slot.
- Do we want to consider any sort of expansion provided there are any interested parties from non-traditional hockey markets?

and yes, I'm a Bettman Cockfag...

[dempsey_k]

How many guys can be added to the IR? I thought we were only allowed one on the roster and one on the protection list??

You're only allowed 2 IRs, one Yahoo and one protection list.

He was able to put more people on his protection list because he only had 2/5 before he did so.

[dempsey_k]

If a):
-what happens to RFA's? and guys who sign extensions?
-can I add / drop guys in the offseason or not?

If b):
- is the number of keepers unlimited or how many do we get?

Being an RFA is completely irrelevant to our league, even if they're bought out. We'll only peg free agency to UFAs as of Jan 1st of the year of the UFA draft. If a player is resigned by his team in March, they're still a UFA in our league. I will make the official list on Jan 1st. You're allowed to keep as many people as you want up to the 30 player limit, but are at no time allowed to exceed the salary cap (which will be voted on, we can do this very soon if you guys want) except from the trade deadline until the draft. There will be a trade ban from the deadline until the end of the season and a separate signing/dropping freeze from the trade deadline until the day of the draft.

I haven't decided on whether there'll be a separate UFA draft and a rookie draft - what do you guys think?

- When we set up next years pool make sure there are 2 IR slots, so we don't have any of this confusion on protected players.

The problems I had setting up the league(s) this year were largely around Yahoo changing their system from last year. It used to be 30 players and I'm pretty sure you could add a 31st so long as one of your players was on the Yahoo system's IR. What happened this year is that there's a 25 player max no matter what, and if you want to add somebody to your IR, it doesn't open a spot for you to add somebody else. So if there are to be two official Yahoo IR slots, it will shorten your roster to 23. I think if anything, I'm willing to extend the protection list past 30 players, let us accumulate up to 35 maybe, and make the rookie draft more interesting.

- The cap number should be set at the actual cap + $X Million to account for the 3rd goalie slot.

Sounds fair , anybody else disagree?

- Do we want to consider any sort of expansion provided there are any interested parties from non-traditional hockey markets?

I think the max on Yahoo is 20, so up to that I'm down for it. We will of course have to have an expansion draft each year for the new schmucks. That's okay, I don't mind giving up Fitzpatrick and Denis.

[Masterplan]

You're only allowed 2 IRs, one Yahoo and one protection list.

He was able to put more people on his protection list because he only had 2/5 before he did so.

So we're allowed two IR's, but do additional IR's count against the cap? My team for example currently has four players; Hemsky, Franzen, Selanne and Grabner, listed as IR. Hemsky and Franzen are my official IR's, but does Selanne and Grabner count against my cap?

[dempsey_k]

So we're allowed two IR's, but do additional IR's count against the cap? My team for example currently has four players; Hemsky, Franzen, Selanne and Grabner, listed as IR. Hemsky and Franzen are my official IR's, but does Selanne and Grabner count against my cap?

No injured player counts against the cap, Yahoo or Protected. Protected players not on the one 2nd IR slot do count.

[Masterplan]

I haven't decided on whether there'll be a separate UFA draft and a rookie draft - what do you guys think?

IMO, just one draft as we had this year. It's then your choice to pick up players that can help you now or down the road.

The problems I had setting up the league(s) this year were largely around Yahoo changing their system from last year. It used to be 30 players and I'm pretty sure you could add a 31st so long as one of your players was on the Yahoo system's IR. What happened this year is that there's a 25 player max no matter what, and if you want to add somebody to your IR, it doesn't open a spot for you to add somebody else. So if there are to be two official Yahoo IR slots, it will shorten your roster to 23. I think if anything, I'm willing to extend the protection list past 30 players, let us accumulate up to 35 maybe, and make the rookie draft more interesting.

Sounds fair , anybody else disagree?

Well that doesn't seem to make sense because currently we have 25 + 1 IR, and Yahoo help indicates we can have a max roster of 25 + up to 5 IR...but if it can't be done, it can't be done.

I'm not sure I like expanding the farm/protection list further, as people should have to evaluate their farm and let guys go if they think they'll be busts. But I'll go with the consensus.

I think the max on Yahoo is 20, so up to that I'm down for it. We will of course have to have an expansion draft each year for the new schmucks. That's okay, I don't mind giving up Fitzpatrick and Denis.

In terms of expansion, my thoughts are that:

- we allow a max of 2 expansion teams per year.
- expansion teams can select up to 10 guys in an expansion draft (from the unprotected players or the waiver wire on the trade deadline) alternating in draft order if there are two teams.
- Existing teams can protect up to 18 players.
- Expansion teams get one UFA pick prior to the draft, and then they will select in the middle of the draft round.

[mayoradamwest]

I would like a cap number set soon, just to have a rough idea. Plus it would increase the value of a couple of my players.

Can anyone clarify if I'm keeping Cam Ward? I don't remember if he was supposed to be a ufa or rfa at the end of this season.

I like having draft picks mixed in with current players for the draft, makes choices a little harder. Then again, I've mainly done my protected list since after the draft so someone like me would be at a disadvantage with a pure prospect draft.

[dempsey_k]

IMO, just one draft as we had this year. It's then your choice to pick up players that can help you now or down the road.



Well that doesn't seem to make sense because currently we have 25 + 1 IR, and Yahoo help indicates we can have a max roster of 25 + up to 5 IR...but if it can't be done, it can't be done.

If that's the case, Yahoo doesn't let me work it like that from the commish tools. It's 25 including 1 IR. If I had added 5 IR it'd be 25 including 5 IR. I don't think it extends past that.


In terms of expansion, my thoughts are that:

- we allow a max of 2 expansion teams per year.
- expansion teams can select up to 10 guys in an expansion draft (from the unprotected players or the waiver wire on the trade deadline) alternating in draft order if there are two teams.
- Existing teams can protect up to 18 players.
- Expansion teams get one UFA pick prior to the draft, and then they will select in the middle of the draft round.

Sound ideas in general.

[chiclet]

Dropped Paille with Bourque back. 311,000 cap space

Dropped, Upshall, Dawes & Gorges. 761,000 cap space

Picked up Jason Demers $543,000/0 (minors)

[Masterplan]

My proposed Salary Cap Formula for 30-man rosters:

Actual Salary Cap (covers 23 man roster)
+
$2.0M (for 3rd goalie slot)
+
$0.5M x 6 (for the reserves)

Total rounded to the nearest million for simplicity.

[nj the redeemer]

Dropped Paille with Bourque back. 311,000 cap space

Dropped, Upshall, Dawes & Gorges. 761,000 cap space

Picked up Jason Demers $543,000/0 (minors)

http://www.shallisayitagain.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/lex-luthor-wrong.jpg

Please try and keep up, people.

[Masterplan]

http://www.shallisayitagain.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/lex-luthor-wrong.jpg

Please try and keep up, people.

It seems demers is on NJ's Protection list.

[mayoradamwest]

Randy Jones' cap hit is not what is listed on nhlnumbers.com for lak.

He was claimed by them under re-entry waivers and his contractual cap hit is 2.750.

[chiclet]

Please try and keep up, people.

Sorry about that. I did a ctrl-F on dempsey's little message there with all the protected players and his name didn't come up so I thought he was free.


edit: I just checked again and it says this:

NJ's Bay Wops:
N.Kronwall (emergency league protection)
J.Mitchell (2nd Injury Reserve Protection)
Gardiner
Brennan
Forsberg
Taffe

wtf? where am I supposed to look? The newfie phone book?

[Dr_Chimera]

Probably dempsey's fault.

[dempsey_k]

Probably dempsey's fault.

I'm giving one of your Russian players away.

I honestly didn't see NJ's thing, I think the protection list thing is only best if I update every single day - New rule, I think what'd be better is to post your latest protection list on the Yahoo board after every move, with the move details so I can see it there and update immediately.

Post them here after each addition/substraction : http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/hockey/216635/messages

LCP - what player do you want back from your drops?

[nj the redeemer]

So we update moves on yahoo, not here.

:owl:

[Masterplan]

Randy Jones' cap hit is not what is listed on nhlnumbers.com for lak.

He was claimed by them under re-entry waivers and his contractual cap hit is 2.750.

What's the ruling on this? His cap hit is technically $1.375M because of re-entry as listed on nhlnumbers and capgeek. His contract is as MAW said $2.75M, which puts me over... Let me know and a rectify things if I need to.

[dempsey_k]

So we update moves on yahoo, not here.

:owl:

Yeah. This is the second time I've let this happen to you and it ain't even Christmas yet, I think if I saw the change on yahoo it'd be easier to scroll down and do the update immediately.

[dempsey_k]

What's the ruling on this? His cap hit is technically $1.375M because of re-entry as listed on nhlnumbers and capgeek. His contract is as MAW said $2.75M, which puts me over... Let me know and a rectify things if I need to.

I think it's fair to say that the player's contractual worth should be tied to the circumstances of having been waived (indicative that he's not worth his full contract apparently to one team at least), so the technical cap hit of $1.375 is what should stick.

[Masterplan]

I think it's fair to say that the player's contractual worth should be tied to the circumstances of having been waived (indicative that he's not worth his full contract apparently to one team at least), so the technical cap hit of $1.375 is what should stick.

So the ruling is that any player who gets picked up on re-entry has a cap hit that team gets.

Are we keeping track of these rules somewhere?

[dempsey_k]

So the ruling is that any player who gets picked up on re-entry has a cap hit that team gets.

Yes.

Are we keeping track of these rules somewhere?

Not really. You want to? I'm writing term papers for money right now, but my proposed "written constitution" is still in the works.

It's just that porn keeps happening.

[MotownMadman]

Knuble activated from IR. Clowe dropped.

[dempsey_k]

Just a reminder, post all protection list changes on the yahoo board Not necessary to post regular changes there.

[mayoradamwest]

Spezza to IR, some changes coming my way.

Picked up Erat. I didn't wait for yahoo to get JS on IR, but he's there. 4+ weeks.

[mayoradamwest]

Spezza available 4 cheep.

[chiclet]

Dropped Briere, added Gagne off of IR and picked up Sergei Kostitsyn.

Totals: 59,652,000

[Masterplan]

I somehow found my way to owning 6 active goalies. Need to move at least one of Boucher ($0.925M) and/or Niemi ($0.827M). Looking for a center or winger at less then $2M or a fair value pick. Let me know. (Gustavsson ($0.9M) could also be available for the right offer.)

[Beigne]

I somehow found my way to owning 6 active goalies. Need to move at least one of Boucher ($0.925M) and/or Niemi ($0.827M). Looking for a center or winger at less then $2M or a fair value pick. Let me know. (Gustavsson ($0.9M) could also be available for the right offer.)

I'm interested in gustavson, take a look at my team to see the possibilities...

[Beigne]

how come I'm now over the cap, while I didn't make any changes?

[dempsey_k]

how come I'm now over the cap, while I didn't make any changes?

Hmmmm?!?

and I'm assuming you're CH4, right?

[chiclet]

Williams on IR (not on yahoo yet but he's got a broken leg)
Cap hit at $56, 152, 000

[dempsey_k]

Williams on IR (not on yahoo yet but he's got a broken leg)
Cap hit at $56, 152, 000

From now on plz post reserve list changes on the Yahoo board

[chiclet]

From now on plz post reserve list changes on the Yahoo board

Was planning to today at some point. Will do now.

Posted there and here, but Picked up Lehtonen (G) for $3 million cap hit

edit: dropped Brule and picked up Pouliot, Lepisto and Budaj for a cap hit of $61,389,000 (+ $1,389,000)...will fix tonight

edit: dropped Hanzal and S Kostitsyn. Cap hit: $59,592,000

edit: Lehtonen to IR and Williams to 2nd Injury Reserve Protection. Cap hit: $59,592,000

[dempsey_k]

Was planning to today at some point. Will do now.

Posted there and here, but Picked up Lehtonen (G) for $3 million cap hit

edit: dropped Brule and picked up Pouliot, Lepisto and Budaj for a cap hit of $61,389,000 (+ $1,389,000)...will fix tonight

edit: dropped Hanzal and S Kostitsyn. Cap hit: $59,592,000

Oh nigsauce, you ain't gotta post all this mess on the yahoo board, only changes to your reserve list muthafucka

[Beigne]

Hmmmm?!?

and I'm assuming you're CH4, right?

yea I am.

anyway Pietrangelo will be sent down in the juniors, methink.

[chiclet]

Oh nigsauce, you ain't gotta post all this mess on the yahoo board, only changes to your reserve list muthafucka

I figured better safe than sorry. I am absolutely the worst at following simple instructions.

Anyway, I'm finally pretty happy with my team. We've reached our goal of hitting 8th spot and now the rest is just (vegetarian) gravy.

[mayoradamwest]

I figured better safe than sorry. I am absolutely the worst at following simple instructions.

Anyway, I'm finally pretty happy with my team. We've reached our goal of hitting 8th spot and now the rest is just (vegetarian) gravy.

my adamwests are going to toss a big hunk of pork into your plans.

[dempsey_k]

yea I am.

anyway Pietrangelo will be sent down in the juniors, methink.

Okay I saw your note, but who do you want of your 5 to be replace on your reserve list for Pietrangelo ?

[Masterplan]

Was there a minimum games rule? I thought I remember something about this when I signed up or was that another pool?

I just worry about guys tanking for 1st overall by leaving positions open. I look down to the bottom rosters and see a couple guys stashing good young guys on the bench and having multiple W, D, and G positions empty, or inactive managers not utilizing the IR.

My thoughts are you should make a minimum 90% of your starts for C,W, and D, and 60% for G, else you forfeit your first round pick, and your second round pick would be in order of final standings.

[Masterplan]

So I looked it up the minimum games I remembered was for goalies:

- Goalies -
You must ice your goalies a minimum of 82 games. Failure to do so will result in forfeiture of a draft pick. Choice of pick is commensurate with the severity of your difference between goalie games played and the 82 bar. Once you reach 82 games you will no longer be required to skate your goalies by the Yahoo! system.

But that was for 2 goalie starts, now we have three, so I would assume that the 50% rule still applies thus requiring 123 starts?

But, IMO there should also be a similar rule for skaters but at a much higher start rate because they are more plentiful and typically play 70-80 games a season.

[mayoradamwest]

if anyone wants spezza before he hits the waiver wire for cheap give me a shout.



I've got some injury problems; Spezza/Alfredsson/Kulikov on the IR.

Spezz/Alfie are on my IR - I take all of Spezza's off, half of Alfie's but still have Kulikov's full hit or only half if he's on the IR?

[Masterplan]

if anyone wants spezza before he hits the waiver wire for cheap give me a shout.



I've got some injury problems; Spezza/Alfredsson/Kulikov on the IR.

Spezz/Alfie are on my IR - I take all of Spezza's off, half of Alfie's but still have Kulikov's full hit or only half if he's on the IR?

I was told anyone on the IR doesn't count against the cap, but you only have 2 IR slots.

[Beigne]

Okay I saw your note, but who do you want of your 5 to be replace on your reserve list for Pietrangelo ?

Skille please

[dempsey_k]

So I looked it up the minimum games I remembered was for goalies:



But that was for 2 goalie starts, now we have three, so I would assume that the 50% rule still applies thus requiring 123 starts?

But, IMO there should also be a similar rule for skaters but at a much higher start rate because they are more plentiful and typically play 70-80 games a season.

What is the average goalie games played by each team in the league? I'll crack the numbers on that in a bit. We may need to take emergency rule changing into effect if the numbers look scary, but I'm guessing that may be inappropriate. We should make this an official issue to discuss for next year's league. Part of the failures of this year will serve to inform the success of next year - that's the beauty of a keeper league.

On that, what do you guys think about 3 goalie starts ? I did it because I hate having goalies earn big on my bench and that happens to a far less degree with skaters.

[Masterplan]

What is the average goalie games played by each team in the league? I'll crack the numbers on that in a bit. We may need to take emergency rule changing into effect if the numbers look scary, but I'm guessing that may be inappropriate. We should make this an official issue to discuss for next year's league. Part of the failures of this year will serve to inform the success of next year - that's the beauty of a keeper league.

On that, what do you guys think about 3 goalie starts ? I did it because I hate having goalies earn big on my bench and that happens to a far less degree with skaters.

It forces people to become goalie whores in order to win. Most at the top have four goalies to make up the max games.

Maybe if you were to reduce the max games to something achievable by two starts and a backup then three starts would make sense, but 3 slots at 82 games, you gotta fill as many of those starts as you can to have a shot.

My real concern is guys tanking by dropping NHLers and loading up on prospects not in the NHL. Thus packing their farm and still getting a high pick. Minimum games for skaters should be instituted to stop things from getting ridiculous. I mean if I'm near the bottom at this point I drop all my deadweight load up of prospects hoping to hit the lottery, while ensure a top 3 pick in the draft. The purpose of a pool is to attempt to get the most points possible every time, not three years down the road.

[Beigne]

hey Heatley 360 modena is listed to be Jack skille's owner, when he was on my protection list.

please correct this.

[dempsey_k]

yea I am.

anyway Pietrangelo will be sent down in the juniors, methink.

Okay I saw your note, but who do you want of your 5 to be replace on your reserve list for Pietrangelo ?

Skille please

hey Heatley 360 modena is listed to be Jack skille's owner, when he was on my protection list.

please correct this.

You told me to get rid of Skille, so I did. What do you want me to do man?

[nj the redeemer]

figures that the first time I forget to set my rosters Butler decides to pump out PPP.

[Dr_Chimera]

Yahoo is fucked up and is not counting points correctly for some players it seems. I made a post about this on our league page.

Unless there's something I'm missing.

[Masterplan]

Yahoo is fucked up and is not counting points correctly for some players it seems. I made a post about this on our league page.

Unless there's something I'm missing.

I believe it has something to do with the lighting outage that suspended the game, which was finished last night.

[MotownMadman]

My Randy moves for this week involve waiving Ersberg (goodbye) and activating Filppula.

[Dr_Chimera]

Can we give Jonesey's team to someone who cares?

[chiclet]

I'm fucked now. Lost two more players to injury with no space on my protect list. There go my dreams of 8th place.

[Dr_Chimera]

I'm curious how the whole draft thing will work. Should I be tanking?

[Masterplan]

Looking to move Grabner and Gustavsson no reasonable offer will be refused. In fact, almost any offer will be accepted.