Prospect Potential.

[Rogers Pancreas]

This is just a fun little exercise that'll be good for a laugh a couple years from now. I want an honest evaluation of our prospects. If you haven't seen them play, that's fine. Just put your gut feeling down with a little asterisk next to it. Also, don't fuck around with numbers or letters. This isn't grade school. (Player comparisons acceptable.)

Rob Bellamy
David Laliberte
Chris Zarb
Gino Pisellini
Ladislav Scurko
Steve Downie
Oskars Bartulis
Jeremy Duchesne
Matt Clackson
Claude Giroux
Andreas Nodl
Mike Ratchuk
Denis Bodrov
Jonathan Matsumoto
Joonas Lehtivuori
Mike Teslak
James Van Riemsdyk
Kevin Marshall
Garrett Klotz
Mario Kempe
Jon Kalinski
Patrick Maroon
Brad Phillips
Luca Sbisa
Marc-Andre Bourdon
Jacob DeSerres
Ryan Dingle
Patrik Hersley
Zac Rinaldo
Joacim Eriksson
Adam Morrison
Simon Bertilsson
Nicola Riopel
Dave Labrecque
Eric Wellwood
Oliver Lauridsen

[jester]

Rob Bellamy - whatever
David Laliberte - whatever
Chris Zarb - whatever
Gino Pisellini - whatever
Ladislav Scurko - whatever
Steve Downie - toil for a while and find the right spot where he'll blossom
Oskars Bartulis - tweener
Jeremy Duchesne - whatever
Matt Clackson - fun AHL fight highlight machine
Claude Giroux - Briere with a better beard and cares about defense
Andreas Nodl - third liner if he's lucky, tweener if not
Mike Ratchuk - AHL highlight machine
Denis Bodrov - career KHLer
Jonathan Matsumoto - good role player
Joonas Lehtivuori - decent shot at quality 2nd/3rd pairing defender
Mike Teslak - poo poo
James Van Riemsdyk - traded too quickly and a force 7 years from now
Kevin Marshall - fan favorite...traded.
Garrett Klotz - stupid fucking pick.
Mario Kempe - whatever
Jon Kalinski - quality role player
Patrick Maroon - AHL star, NHL hanger-on
Brad Phillips - never sign him
Luca Sbisa- 2nd pairing D
Marc-Andre Bourdon - 2nd/3rd pairing D
Jacob DeSerres - eh
Ryan Dingle - the guy who was traded with Pronger
Patrik Hersley - whatever
Zac Rinaldo - the next Downie
Joacim Eriksson - the next Nitty
Adam Morrison - will cry during a game.
Simon Bertilsson - meh
Nicola Riopel - the next Niel Little
Dave Labrecque - I have no opinion
Eric Wellwood - nothing will come of this
Oliver Lauridsen - he's tall, that's good.

[Dig Out Your Soul]

Rob Bellamy - probably won't sniff the NHL.
David Laliberte - same.
Chris Zarb - is he even our property anymore?
Gino Pisellini - one of hundreds of OHL tough guys that won't amount to shit.
Ladislav Scurko - murderer.
Steve Downie - the media would make you think he was a murderer, will still become a solid third liner with second liner hands.
Oskars Bartulis - might sniff a call-up every now and then...next Bobby Orr if you listen to BCF16.
Jeremy Duchesne - meh.
Matt Clackson - balls-out kid, probably won't see the NHL.
Claude Giroux - his skills give me a boner, his hype is getting out of control.
Andreas Nodl - the next Vanek is more like the next who fucking cares.
Mike Ratchuk - could be the next Mike Green, could be the next me (yes, my name is also Mike if you guys don't remember).
Denis Bodrov - sounds like there's potential here, but I have no confidence he'll come over.
Jonathan Matsumoto - would like to see what he can do with the big club.
Joonas Lehtivuori - never seen him play, could be good based on what I've read.
Mike Teslak - he's a 66 in NHL 09, that's about all I know.
James Van Riemsdyk - bust written all over him, hoping to be proven wrong.
Kevin Marshall - very excited about this kid, hope he pans out.
Garrett Klotz - fuck you, Paul Holmgren...a third rounder? really? fuck you.
Mario Kempe - speed and fearlessness could land him a role-playing job in the NHL.
Jon Kalinski - quality 4th liner, will get some call-ups this year.
Patrick Maroon - interesting case...if his skating improves I'd like to see what he can do at the NHL level...great hands.
Brad Phillips - I seriously had to google him...will not amount to shit.
Luca Sbisa - Pronger will bring us a Cup, so my answer is "Luca who?"...will be very good though.
Marc-Andre Bourdon - if he could skate, I'd be excited.
Jacob DeSerres - meh.
Ryan Dingle - hilarious name, might sniff a call-up this year.
Patrik Hersley - first guy I trade in NHL 09, simply because I don't know who he is and his name is awkward to me.
Zac Rinaldo - the next Hollweg...do not like.
Joacim Eriksson - AHL starter.
Adam Morrison - we seriously drafted a goalie who played 13 games?
Simon Bertilsson - no opinion yet.
Nicola Riopel - probably another wasted pick on a goalie trying to find that diamond in the rough.
Dave Labrecque - don't care.
Eric Wellwood - wasted pick, Homer will trade a 2nd rounder for Kyle and yet another brothers experiment will fail in Philadelphia (see Timonen, Jussi).
Oliver Lauridsen - he's big, but I haven't seen him play.

[Soviet]

Rob Bellamy - won't be in the NHL
David Laliberte - won't be in the NHL
Chris Zarb - won't be in the NHL
Gino Pisellini - won't be in the NHL
Ladislav Scurko - is facing 20 years in jail
Steve Downie - if someone finds a way to calm him down, he'll be a nice 3rd liner
Oskars Bartulis - is amazing in Be A Pro mode on NHL 09
Jeremy Duchesne - don't know
Matt Clackson - nice AHL guy
Claude Giroux - the hype he gets on HF is ridiculous, but he'll be great
Andreas Nodl - 4th liner that tries really hard, but still sucks
Mike Ratchuk - good in the AHL, could be decent in the NHL
Denis Bodrov - probably won't sign here, sounds at most like a 5-6 guy
Jonathan Matsumoto - hopefully gets a chance
Joonas Lehtivuori - don't know
Mike Teslak - don't know
James Van Riemsdyk - worried that he'll bust, also hope to be proven wrong
Kevin Marshall - i hear nothing but good things about him, can't wait to see how he does in the NHL
Garrett Klotz - gonna go ahead and say this was a stupid pick
Mario Kempe - don't know
Jon Kalinski - awesome 4th liner and a guy that wont hurt you at all on the 3rd line
Patrick Maroon - don't know
Brad Phillips - don't know who the fuck this is
Luca Sbisa - 2nd or 3rd pairing defenseman in the NHL. will be a nice player.
Marc-Andre Bourdon - 2nd pairing defenseman. loved the pick when we drafted him.
Jacob DeSerres - don't know
Ryan Dingle - his name is Dingle
Patrik Hersley - don't know
Zac Rinaldo - will probably get like 5 shifts in the NHL, board the fuck out of someone, and never be seen again
Joacim Eriksson - AHL starter or NHL backup
Adam Morrison - this pick made absolutely no sense
Simon Bertilsson - don't know. doesn't seem horrible.
Nicola Riopel - Holmgren's attempt to find a good player in the later rounds. doesn't seem that bad.
Dave Labrecque - don't know
Eric Wellwood - will probably have limited offensive skills and be horrific defensively
Oliver Lauridsen - i like this pick.

[Hovercraft]

Rob Bellamy- 4th liner if anything
David Laliberte- AHL scorer
Chris Zarb-nothing
Gino Pisellini-nothing
Ladislav Scurko-criminal
Steve Downie-3rd/2nd liner
Oskars Bartulis #5-6 2 way guy
Jeremy Duchesne nothing
Matt Clackson 4th line pest
Claude Giroux 90 point player
Andreas Nodl 50-60 point guy
Mike Ratchuk PPQB or nothing
Denis Bodrov DFD # 4
Jonathan Matsumoto 2 way 3rd line centre
Joonas Lehtivuori 2 way d man. n 4
Mike Teslak nothing
James Van Riemsdyk 1st line LW
Kevin Marshall great 2 way guy. number 3
Garrett Klotz nothing
Mario Kempe speedy 3rd line w
Jon Kalinski checker/pest
Patrick Maroon 2nd liner
Brad Phillips nothing
Luca Sbisa n 2 d man
Marc-Andre Bourdon 2nd pairing 2 way guy
Jacob DeSerres nothiing
Ryan Dingle 4th line c
Patrik Hersley nothing
Zac Rinaldo nothing
Joacim Eriksson starter?
Adam Morrison starter?
Simon Bertilsson great 2nd pairing d man
Nicola Riopel starter?
Dave Labrecque no idea
Eric Wellwood nothing
Oliver Lauridsen n 6 physical d man

[Rogers Pancreas]

Re: Zarb

Holmgren just signed him. Kind of a weird process because he wasn't good enough for the Phantoms the first time around, but after a couple seasons things look a little better from the GMs POV.

Rob Bellamy - 4th-liner at best
David Laliberte - AHL
Chris Zarb - AHL
Gino Pisellini - ECHL
Ladislav Scurko - prison
Steve Downie - quality 3rd-liner
Oskars Bartulis - AHL
Jeremy Duchesne - WTF?
Matt Clackson - 4th-liner at best
Claude Giroux - 1st-line fixture
Andreas Nodl - AHL
Mike Ratchuk - AHL
Denis Bodrov - a Russian-born Flyers prospect... when has that ever worked?
Jonathan Matsumoto - AHL
Joonas Lehtivuori - Europe
Mike Teslak - NCAA goaltender + Flyers = Fail
James Van Riemsdyk - 1st-line complimentary forward
Kevin Marshall - 5/6-pairing defenseman
Garrett Klotz - absolutely worthless
Mario Kempe - Europe
Jon Kalinski - quality plug
Patrick Maroon - 2nd-line complimentary forward
Brad Phillips - NCAA goaltender + Flyers = Fail
Luca Sbisa - potential no.2, most likely 3/4-pairing defenseman
Marc-Andre Bourdon - 3/4-pairing defenseman for some other club
Jacob DeSerres - ECHL
Ryan Dingle - tweener
Patrik Hersley - NA -> Europe
Zac Rinaldo - ECHL
Joacim Eriksson - back-up
Adam Morrison - AHL
Simon Bertilsson - Europe -> NA -> Europe
Nicola Riopel - back-up
Dave Labrecque - quality plug
Eric Wellwood - AHL
Oliver Lauridsen - depth defenseman

[Dr Love]

I'll just leave it to guys I have an opinion of. If they're not on here, I don't know anything about them.

Steve Downie - will amount to nothing, but that doesn't excuse management from fucking him over multiple times.

Matt Clackson - apparently he can fight. I like that. Welcome to the world of being a 4th line tweener.

Claude Giroux - very much looking forward to what he brings this year. Could be a very very good player or trade fodder.

James Van Riemsdyk - gut feeling he'll stink, would have no objections to trading him for someone that's actually good.

Luca Sbisa - Could be good, could be the next in a long line of defensemen the Flyers have dealt away and not regretted.

Ryan Dingle - Seem him play. AHL fodder.

Patrik Hersley - Seen him play. ECHL fodder.

Adam Morrison - I thought he played for the Memphis Grizzlies.

[Se7en]

I'm not a flyers but i've been intrigued by JVR's development since he was drafted. Im just curious to know why most of you predict a bust in this thread?

He played great at the WJC posting:
2008 United States WJC 6 5 6 11
2009 United States WJC 6 6 4 10

and similar stats to Jonathan Toews in college

Toews:
2005–06 University of North Dakota NCAA 42 22 17 39
2006–07 University of North Dakota NCAA 34 18 28 46

JVR:
2007–08 U. of New Hampshire HE 31 11 23 34
2008–09 U. of New Hampshire HE 36 17 23 40

[Rogers Pancreas]

I'm not a flyers but i've been intrigued by JVR's development since he was drafted. Im just curious to know why most of you predict a bust in this thread?

He played great at the WJC posting:
2008 United States WJC 6 5 6 11
2009 United States WJC 6 6 4 10

and similar stats to Jonathan Toews in college

Toews:
2005–06 University of North Dakota NCAA 42 22 17 39
2006–07 University of North Dakota NCAA 34 18 28 46

JVR:
2007–08 U. of New Hampshire HE 31 11 23 34
2008–09 U. of New Hampshire HE 36 17 23 40He's similar to Jeff Carter in that he's so big, and so defensively conscientious that you sometimes wonder if it's a combination of the two that make him appear to so lax (especially when Mike Richards is running around every which way), or if he's just lazy. Only time will tell.

[DeepOrange]

Rob Bellamy - AHL
David Laliberte - AHL
Chris Zarb - AHL
Gino Pisellini - AHL
Ladislav Scurko - Like RP said, in prison.
Steve Downie - 3rd or 4th line agitator that can step in a scoring line as a complimentary role player. I would have liked to keep him, but he wasn't going anywhere with Stevens.
Oskars Bartulis - Reserve D, but not with the Flyers.
Jeremy Duchesne - AHL starter
Matt Clackson - Reserve winger
Claude Giroux - 70ish point 1st liner who may sniff a PPG pace a few times in his career.
Andreas Nodl - I don't think his offense will ever translate, but he can skate an play defense. With some more seasoning I think he can be a third liner.
Mike Ratchuk - AHL All-star
Denis Bodrov - KHL forever
Jonathan Matsumoto - 4th liner who can PK
Joonas Lehtivuori - No idea. I hear he's decent, but I'm not expecting anything.
Mike Teslak - AHL backup
James Van Riemsdyk - I don't get the hate for him. Maybe it's because of the WJCs, but I thought he played well despite (set up some great plays that Wilson couldn't bury in the last couple games). I think he'll be a lower-level 1st line winger like Milan Michalek... maybe better.
Kevin Marshall - I don't think he'll bring much offense, but he'll be a great, physical defenseman. He'll probably be on the bottom pairing for most of his career.
Garrett Klotz - ugh
Mario Kempe - If he plays in North America throughout his career, he'll probably be a good AHL player.
Jon Kalinski - Great 4th line energy guy.
Patrick Maroon - I think he'll be a 40-50 point guy in the NHL in his prime. I really want to see if the Flyers can utilize his big body presence on the second PP unit, even as early as next season.
Brad Phillips - No idea
Luca Sbisa - Full-package, #2 or 3 defenseman.
Marc-Andre Bourdon - Two-way #4 defenseman, but he'll need a lot of time in the minors.
Jacob DeSerres - Looks like a bad pick already. Probably an AHLer.
Ryan Dingle - I want to hear that name on NHL broadcasts, but I never will.
Patrik Hersley - Europe.
Zac Rinaldo - AHL role player
Joacim Eriksson - He may develop into an NHL backup, but that's a long ways away.
Adam Morrison - AHL
Simon Bertilsson - I don't know a whole lot about him, but he looks good. Maybe he'll develop into an NHLer, but I want to wait at least a year until I form a real opinion about him.
Nicola Riopel - Kind of a wild card. I like the pick now, but as with Bertilsson, I'm going to wait a bit.
Dave Labrecque - Same
Eric Wellwood - Same, but if he's anything like his brother, God help us.
Oliver Lauridsen - I don't know anything about him but OH MAN 6'6 WHAT A BEAST!!! He'll probably suck, but I'll keep an open mind.